Quote from Gordon Gekko:
alfonso,
you are a TOTAL M-O-R-O-N! (go ahead and cry to Baron now, crybaby!)
i am PROUD that you dislike me!
Gekko, I actually don't dislike you, believe it or not. Which isn't to say I really like you, either. You're just another poster, as far as I'm concerned. I do think you make out to know a whole lot more than you really do (you seem confused with the difference between
liking an idea and claiming it is "true"), but that's not really a problem in itself; it's just that when you couple it with an infantile NEED TO YELL ALL THE TIME (as if that adds credence to your point) it starts to get a tad annoying.
Axeman,
I don't believe that rising red line is
necessarily a good thing -- it depends a good deal on what the money is spent on. I don't think you'll find me on record as saying that
all spending is a good thing. In general though, yes, I do believe government programs add value to all society (not just the poor -- oops, I mean the "slackers" and "leeches").
I notice (with amusement) that I've been the subject of a few swipes in the last few pages.

Not that I mind being criticized (I welcome it), but it would be nice if an actual effort was made to understand my position before mocking it.
Regarding my calling the principles of objectivism "fanciful", I'd be happy to explain why I think this. I'm a bit miffed that marketsurfer doens't appear as interested in backing up his assertions that life would be just oh so wonderful under such a system though.
Back to you later.