Capital protected ETF

Here's what the prospectus says:

While the Fund seeks to provide 100% protection against losses experienced by the Underlying ETF (before fees and expenses) for shareholders who hold Fund Shares for an entire Outcome Period, there is no guarantee it will successfully do so.

There is no guarantee the capital protection and cap will be successful and a shareholder investing at the beginning of an Outcome Period could also lose their entire investment.

There is no guarantee that the Fund will be successful in providing these investment outcomes for any Outcome Period, and an investor may experience returns on the Fund significantly below the Cap.

In periods of extreme market volatility or during market disruption events, the Fund’s ability to offset investor losses through the use of the FLEX Options to achieve the stated Capital Protection, or provide a return up to the stated upside Cap may be impaired, resulting in an upside limit significantly below the Cap and downside protection significantly lower than full capital protection (i.e., losses greater than 0%), because the Fund may not be able to trade or exercise existing FLEX Options, or may not receive timely payment from its counterparties. An investor may lose their entire investment and an investment in the Fund is only appropriate for investors willing to bear those losses.


I think it is unlikely that these funds will experience a significant loss, or a major deviation in the expected upside. But I suppose that depends on how you define significant.

If you reasonably expect 100% downside protection, and you end up with a loss of, I dunno, say, one fourth of one percent, because the index lost 4.3% over the applicable time period, and their option strategy didn't work exactly they way their model predicted it would...

Well, if I invested $50K in this thing instead of buying 100 shares of SPY, then I have lost $125.00 (instead of losing $2,150.00) and I'm probably not going to freak out.

But if I am managing an institutional account for a charity or something, and I put one third of the money in this thing, assuming that it is impossible to lose any principal, and it suffers a loss of one fourth of one percent... well, that might generate some uncomfortable conversations with the board of trustees.


and their option strategy didn't work exactly they way their model predicted it would...

Since all the options are struck on day 1 and are exchange as a counter party ( my assumption) why it would not work? unless OCC goes out of business !
 
Calamos is 365 days with 9-10% cap and 100% downside / 0.69% fees,
what I am trying to find out is
1) Rate at which it changes with SPY during the 365 days, asked them they have no idea they only shows each days % change in SPY and the ETF
2) Can the same be achieved at retail ? European style options needed

you can model 1 with some vol assumptions.

I showed how to do it on another thread you started.
 
and their option strategy didn't work exactly they way their model predicted it would...

Since all the options are struck on day 1 and are exchange as a counter party ( my assumption) why it would not work? unless OCC goes out of business !

I think it's very unlikely that it will fail. But they are not providing a contractual guarantee. They are concerned about systemic risk, among other things.

And the prospectus also says this:

The Fund’s investment objective is not a fundamental policy, and therefore may be changed by the Board without shareholder approval.

Did you follow the debacle with USO when the price of oil dropped below zero?

USO is a passive ETF that uses futures to track the price of oil. When the spot price of oil dropped below zero (you had to pay someone to take it off your hands, because of the storage costs), the ETF was unable to maintain their stated strategy of liquidity problems and position limits. They had to get really creative, and they basically had to start actively managing a fund that was advertised as passive. This did not work out very well LOL But the fund is still in business. I think they settled a class action lawsuit, and modified their strategy and their prospectus.
 
But here the Option Collar is either established or not achieved on day 1 , it is not like the USO which was just a futures position
I am not saying that this is a great product ,
 
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