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I agree with what you are saying but allocating money to people who are completely unknown to you, possibly living on the other side of the world to us and are potential crooks one needs to build in safety measures. This is one we feel we need.
I understand that without analyzing the trader's positions, you cannot tell if he is taking fooled-by-randomness type risks, such as selling options naked. But if I had been doing stat arb in the glory days, I am not sure I would have been talking about it in a forum such as this. When we find something good, real traders tend to keep it to ourselves.

Risk is part of the business. That's why you start with small allocations. It's the traders job to manage that risk, and I am not sure you can tell all that much about his risk control just by looking at his portfolio. A trader can go broke without ever taking a career-ending hit.

Fraud is different (and real) problem. I think cooking the books was a much more important part of Madoff's fraud than was failing to disclose his methodology. There are ways to finesse that even with tamper-resistent record-keeping. For example, one could have multiple accounts with offsetting strategies and only show the ones that make money.
 
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I understand that without analyzing the trader's positions, you cannot tell if he is taking fooled-by-randomness type risks, such as selling options naked. But if I had been doing stat arb in the glory days, I am not sure I would have been talking about it in a forum such as this. When we find something good, real traders tend to keep it to ourselves.

Risk is part of the business. That's why you start with small allocations. It's the traders job to manage that risk, and I am not sure you can tell all that much about his risk control just by looking at his portfolio. A trader can go broke without ever taking a career-ending hit.

Fraud is different (and real) problem. I think cooking the books was a much more important part of Madoff's fraud than was failing to disclose his methodology. There are ways to finesse that even with tamper-resistent record-keeping. For example, one could have multiple accounts with offsetting strategies and only show the ones that make money.
no kidding, back in the old days, they really didn't pay that much attention to mirror accounts. You could keep two traders going for a long time.

Anybody that knows anything about anything knows that is how Hillary made money in Cattle.

Like the man said, "Put em all on, we'll split them up later."
 
I know I am being nosey and a little forward, but heck this is ET.

There are a few guys who seem to know a bit on this thread, a few names that come to mind rwk, marketsurfer, oldtime and a few others forgive me if I have forgotten your username.

I am interested to hear from you how your trading year has been. I regard Velocity as my main barometer and I have struggled this year. Before fees I am up for the year after fees small down. I only mention that because on our site performance is before fees but I regard the fund as underwater this year.

I love and hate that my numbers are there for all to see. The best way at the end of the day to judge if you know what you are talking about is to post good numbers.:cool:
 
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I only mention that because on our site performance is before fees but I regard the fund as underwater this year.

So... what you are saying is that you are not GIPS compliant? You might want to consider compliance (at least in practice, if not actually getting that cert).
 
Quote from CT10Gov:

So... what you are saying is that you are not GIPS compliant? You might want to consider compliance (at least in practice, if not actually getting that cert).

Actually, he's saying that the performance that is advertised on his site is not attainable by ANY investor.
 
Quote from Petro:

Actually, he's saying that the performance that is advertised on his site is not attainable by ANY investor.


Why list performance before fees ? Any reason for this ?
 
Quote from Peternam:

Why list performance before fees ? Any reason for this ?

Only one reason anyone does that, to try and make themselves look better to the uneducated investor
 
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