Cannabis - A Wonder Drug?

[Robert Weinstein]

Quote from Peri:

"destroyed families"

Everyone take a reality check. More families are destroyed by porn addictions which result in loss of trust, intimacy, and human connection, thus demise, than alcohol or pot. Good God how many times have I read on this board, "what do you do in the slow times?" "PORN"

sounds like your confusing lack of communication with "porn addiction" (as if we are not all hard wired to want sex)

this needs to be done before your married.

for example if you like porn and the person your dating says that its evil or bad and doesn't want to watch it and you should not either than simple, don't marry them if you plan to ever do it again. Its no different than 10 million other things that can piss the other person off. (spending money on things the other person doesn't want money spent on comes to mind)

feeling hurt because the other person watched porn is a symptom of not having an open and honest relationship not the cause of it.

 

[Brandonf]

Quote from 1Reason:

Pot is a gateway drug and we all know it.

Its a gateway in the following ways:

increase in police spending for equipment

Increase in police overtime

Increase in prosecution funding

Increase in Federal tax dollars getting handed out to communities that are addicted to fed dollars for DARE programs and other "educational" programs

Increase in prison building contracts

Increase in prison guard jobs

Increase in parole worker employment

Increase in Federal Judgeships (over 30%+ fed cases are drug related) along with the court reporters filing clerks etc.......

Gave us wonderful things like asset forfeiture laws where the govt doesn't have to go through pesky things like the constitution to take away someones property

So the next time someone says its a gateway drug (like someone willing to do other drugs says no because pot is illegal) you can honestly agree with them.

Full disc - I dont smoke pot. But I am sick of all the wasted police resources, money, and destroyed families this issue causes BECAUSE its against the law.

I pretty much agree with everything you just said. I've often wondered, given the obvious lessons of Prohibition, why is it that we create markets that allow two bit thugs to become powerful multimillionares(sometimes billionares), and honestly the only thing I can think of is that it's creating more money someplace else. If they legalized all drugs tomorrow, and released all drug offenders from prisons you would then probably have to close down 2/3 of our prisons and fire at least half of the police forces and 3/4 of the probation/parole officers in this country. Thats a lot of government work that your asking the government to get rid of. It will never happen, there is too much money and corruption on both sides for our current prohibtionist laws to ever be revoked.

 

[MandelbrotSet]

Finally, an intelligent thread ... too bad it had to be about a recreational drug that people mainly use to chill out and have good sex.

 

[nokomisjeff]

Quote from Pekelo:

A much more interesting topic would be smoking weed while trading. Anybody has experience with it? Would that make one careless or just more relaxed??

I tried trading in the pit a few times after smoking weed back in the early 80's. I lost the spread relationship in my cognitive thought process. My thinking was so slowed down, my bids and offers were way off the inside market. Any edge was gone. On those days, I turned into a human ATM machine. I liked trading against people who were stoned.

 

[IanMacQuaide]

Quote from Brandonf:

I pretty much agree with everything you just said. I've often wondered, given the obvious lessons of Prohibition, why is it that we create markets that allow two bit thugs to become powerful multimillionares(sometimes billionares), and honestly the only thing I can think of is that it's creating more money someplace else. If they legalized all drugs tomorrow, and released all drug offenders from prisons you would then probably have to close down 2/3 of our prisons and fire at least half of the police forces and 3/4 of the probation/parole officers in this country. Thats a lot of government work that your asking the government to get rid of. It will never happen, there is too much money and corruption on both sides for our current prohibtionist laws to ever be revoked.

I'm not arguing "for" or "against", but I've heard if we legalized drugs, our banks would literally go broke within 3 weeks.

 

[Pekelo]

Quote from nokomisjeff:

I turned into a human ATM machine. I liked trading against people who were stoned.

Maybe this could be turned into a positive strategy by taking the opposite of the trades. So hire a guy, let him smoke weed while trading and fade his trades!!!!

 

[ElCubano]

Quote from aeliodon:

but there was no damage done at all.

yeah right....lets take a look at them lungs

 

[Compulsive]

Quote from Peri:

"destroyed families"

Everyone take a reality check. More families are destroyed by porn addictions which result in loss of trust, intimacy, and human connection, thus demise, than alcohol or pot. Good God how many times have I read on this board, "what do you do in the slow times?" "PORN"

I second that Bro....there are "hospitals" or rehabs for drugs, booze and gambling, but you don't see rehabs for sex/porn addicts..yes there are meetings that one can go to...but....they are like hidden....yet biggest problem that a man can have is fornicating, which results in....Peri already said it.

 

[Pa(b)st Prime]

Quote from nokomisjeff:

I tried trading in the pit a few times after smoking weed back in the early 80's. I lost the spread relationship in my cognitive thought process. My thinking was so slowed down, my bids and offers were way off the inside market. Any edge was gone. On those days, I turned into a human ATM machine. I liked trading against people who were stoned.

I'll admit it: I was high (at least on the open) virtually every day I walked into the Bond pit. I used to fire up in the car on my drive downtown. Pot caused a few distinct effects on my trading.

1. My feel was very, very good. Just like when you're high and listening to music you'll pick up on a bass line below the surface-that riff you almost ignore when "straight"-I'd get a really good groove figuring which way the pit was leaning.

2. Because I suffered from anxiety (you would too if your swings were 10-200k a day ) pot helped me relax and trade freely.

3. Pot caused me to suffer HUGE discipline lapses. A sane person looks at a loser and thinks, "get me the f out!". I'd instead say "chill P, it'll come back. ADD to it." Real bad recipe.

I quit smoking for about 10 years. During that span my trading SUCKED. A couple of years ago I started up again-just a little-ONLY at night-usually while I'm charting and thinking through market scenarios. My trading has since improved night and day. I hate to say it but the pot does allow me to open my mind to possibilities that I'd probably "write-off" as too bizarre if I wasn't high.

Let's face it, if someone had said several months ago (as I did) that the banking system will be bailed out by Congress, people would've rebutted, "Get off the drugs! No way will we break that hard!!!"

P.S. I do no other "drugs" (well lots of coffee) and I rarely drink alcohol.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself if people should be sent to jail for buying, selling, using or possessing weed. Personally, I can't see it.