candlestick question

Quote from Luto:

Rather than looking for particular matches, look at the general pattern.

Bars up with waves, A long bar up, Several spinnning top doji type patterns indicating a pause. Let's see, a run up, then a pause. What would you bet upon? Not necessarly a slam dunk top, but that is not what you want anyways.

Cheers

okay, I see that. Thanx, I'll look at some charts to sharpen my skill there.
 
Quote from cdbern:

interesting. so does the movement @12:50 - 13:20 have a name? Is there anyway of knowing that there would be a drop in price beginning @ 13:20?

That too, was an Evening Star. To catch part of it, you would have to have been watching real-time, suspecting an Evening Star was forming and got on it early at around 1.268. Stars and engulfers indicate a possible top/bottom has just been completed. I know of no candle patterns which would anticipate a turn.
 
Quote from peterfigliozzi:

I'll take a stab at this.
At the top there is resistance (See that long upper shadow) followed by a bearish engulfing. That's when a red body eclipses the body right before it. A little while later there was another bearish engulfing.
Thanks Pete! "bearish engulfing" ... I'll study that formation. Also, you gave me an idea! I will study all "short" or "bearish" formations! That is how I can get a jump on these thingys.

ol
 
Quote from gnome:

The 3 bar pattern which included the high was an Evening Star. The most relevant candle patterns are forms of "stars" and "engulfing" which occur at resistance and tops of patterns + support and bottoms of patterns.
Thanks Gnome! I'll hone my studying in on "stars" and "engulfing."

Regards,
 
Quote from Luto:

Rather than looking for particular matches, look at the general pattern.

Bars up with waves, A long bar up, Several spinnning top doji type patterns indicating a pause. Let's see, a run up, then a pause. What would you bet upon? Not necessarly a slam dunk top, but that is not what you want anyways.

Cheers
Luto: Interesting observation! A run up, then a pause.

To me that may indicate a couple things: either a pause in the run up then a continuation... or, that longs ran out of steam, then a decline (such as the one that happened)... or, that a coordinated effort by sellers happened to kick in after the pause for some reason.

Who is to know for sure, though, unless this pattern is most the time associated with a decline. I have not been studying/trading long enough to know.

Any suggestions?

Do spinning stars always indicate a pause?
 
Quote from gnome:

That too, was an Evening Star. To catch part of it, you would have to have been watching real-time, suspecting an Evening Star was forming and got on it early at around 1.268. Stars and engulfers indicate a possible top/bottom has just been completed. I know of no candle patterns which would anticipate a turn.
Gnome: Is there a common separation between these indicators/formations, and a STRONG version of them that may indicate a powerful approaching decline?

ol
 
One very important point as you learn about candlesticks: these two or three candlestick formations have to be taken in context.

For example, I have found that a bearish engulfing at a previous failure is a WHOLE lot more realiable entry signal than just a bearish engulfing in any old place.

Another thing, which I even know less about, is what is supposed to happen AFTER your candle signal. But this just falls into the category of "study the winners", learn how they behave before and after entry.
 
Quote from overload:

Thanks Pete! "bearish engulfing" ... I'll study that formation. Also, you gave me an idea! I will study all "short" or "bearish" formations! That is how I can get a jump on these thingys.

ol

So be sure to include the context in your studies. One way to do this is to look at a longer term chart, and see what's happening there when you get your successful signals. Or, the other way around if you are already looking at a slower chart: look at a faster chart around where you got successful signals and see what was going on there.
 
Quote from peterfigliozzi:

So be sure to include the context in your studies. One way to do this is to look at a longer term chart, and see what's happening there when you get your successful signals. Or, the other way around if you are already looking at a slower chart: look at a faster chart around where you got successful signals and see what was going on there.
Right, wise advice, at best any "indicators" are to only be used as minor confirmations to the overall structure of a trade and not *relied* upon for trading plans/decisions.

I'm going to be reading your journal too.

ol
 
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