Canada’s covid-19 second wave is a humbling moment after a summer of bragging

hey moron... how many deaths under 29 in the last 14 days... in Ontario...

you fear mongering idiot..


answer ... 0 you moron.

and 1 under 40 you moron.


https://www.publichealthontario.ca/...ta-surveillance/covid-19-data-tool?tab=ageSex

Still frothing at the mouth I see. So far the hospitals kept them alive I guess but there is no doubt increasing numbers of your "low risk" group are filling our hospitals. ICU beds have been filling up rapidly; the restrictions speak to that fact. No doubt if the restrictions work, as they did in wave 2, you'll still pretend they didn't work. Seems to be what you do.

ps I edited my post to reflect your input on the lack of deaths of our young patients. I can admit when I'm incorrect unlike you. The news story I watched inferred the cases were serious some patients life in danger.
 
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not even close... back testing a strategy... being entertained by pointing out what a fearful troll you are.

yeah... young healthy people are just dying like crazy here in Canada... until I provided the link.


Still frothing at the mouth I see. So far the hospitals kept them alive I guess but there is no doubt increasing numbers of your "low risk" group are filling our hospitals.
 
not even close... back testing a strategy... being entertained by pointing out what a fearful troll you are.

yeah... young healthy people are just dying like crazy here in Canada... until I provided the link.

I'm not fearful of anything. You've been whining and being an emotional wreck on this for a year running. I never said young people are dying like crazy here. What I said is they are filling our hospitals when last year almost none of them were in those age groups. Don't shoot the messenger it's a daily news story here and it is the reason they closed the schools.

You really have no clue what is going on in Canada and we all know you were going on about our second wave when your community had 5 times the cases we did. Repetitive bs ideas that served no purpose. Then your blessed Sweden got hit hard by Covid, far worse then Canada. No acknowledgement you were wrong you just pretended you were right. You still bring up early long term care problems in Sweden as an excuse; Canada actually had the worst death rate in long term care in the developed world.

We all know you'll carry on with your delusions hooking into every story and short term data angle you think makes you right. And it's all pointless; your initial ideas have all been thoroughly debunked by medical science and data. You just don't seem smart enough to realize this.
 
Although I cannot see the posts from some of the fake Canadians, I can see from some replies that they are out and about- or should that be "oot and aboot."

Most likely they are arguing that although they have more covid now that it is a better form of covid because it has "Canadian values."

GIGGLE!!!!!!

idiots.


 
You lying troll... you did say they were dying...
Then you went back and changed your quote...
This was your quote...

"The recent outbreak in Ontario has been directly linked to younger to middle aged adults catching the UK variant while out and about. And many are more critically ill and some dying in age groups the deniers on here would suggest won't ever happen. Our schools have actually been mostly open throughout but the UK variant changed things now."






I'm not fearful of anything. You've been whining and being an emotional wreck on this for a year running. I never said young people are dying like crazy here. What I said is they are filling our hospitals when last year almost none of them were in those age groups. Don't shoot the messenger it's a daily news story here and it is the reason they closed the schools.

You really have no clue what is going on in Canada and we all know you were going on about our second wave when your community had 5 times the cases we did. Repetitive bs ideas that served no purpose. Then your blessed Sweden got hit hard by Covid, far worse then Canada. No acknowledgement you were wrong you just pretended you were right. You still bring up early long term care problems in Sweden as an excuse; Canada actually had the worst death rate in long term care in the developed world.

We all know you'll carry on with your delusions hooking into every story and short term data angle you think makes you right. And it's all pointless; your initial ideas have all been thoroughly debunked by medical science and data. You just don't seem smart enough to realize this.
 
For those who would like to see a troll liar... in action...
He claimed he never said they were dying...
They acts like I am the hysterical one...
What a troll loser.



The recent outbreak in Ontario has been directly linked to younger to middle aged adults catching the UK variant while out and about. And many are more critically ill and some dying in age groups the deniers on here would suggest won't ever happen. Our schools have actually been mostly open throughout but the UK variant changed things now.

vs...


The recent outbreak in Ontario has been directly linked to younger to middle aged adults catching the UK variant while out and about. And many are more critically ill in age groups the deniers on here would suggest won't ever happen. Our schools have actually been mostly open throughout but the UK variant changed things now.
 
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I've been posting videos last year of the maskless partying even maskless dancing in the shopping malls. Very sad to see.

Never saw fitness centers closed for business during the Pandemic. Yet, I would see a few people using the exercise equipment. Simply, you gotta work out at home (biking, rowing, free weights, jump rope) is all you need. Funny thing, the people of Québec have been asking for stricter restrictions but Premier François Legault resisted...even giving him warnings about what was happening the Easter Holiday...

Lots of private parties by the Elite. The gym below, I drove by it about a month ago...it was at full capacity...parking lot full of autos. The last time businesses violated the health guidelines...children became infected (a few hospitalized) via their parents / grand parents going to full capacity bars as posted last year...

People had a town hall meeting to prevent burning down the business (the bars) of the offenders because several primary schools had to be closed for a week to sanitize...the Covidiots.

You Reap What You Sow

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'Bravo champion': As Quebec City returns to lockdown, mayor calls out gym at centre of massive outbreak

Officials in Quebec City were pleading for government to impose stricter measures.

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As Quebec City once again finds itself under lockdown amid an alarming rise in COVID-19 cases, many are pointing fingers at a 24-hour gym that has been linked to a huge outbreak.

The region reported 184 new cases on Wednesday, up 50 per cent from Tuesday and its highest total since early January, during the peak of the second wave.

Premier François Legault responded to the rise in cases by ordering schools and non-essential businesses in Quebec City and neighbouring Lévis to close for the next ten days. The curfew will also be brought forward to 8 p.m.

Legault described the new measures as a "wake-up call" for the area.

Officials in the region had been calling for stricter measures ahead of the surprise announcement by the provincial government.

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Premier François Legault responded to rise in cases by ordering schools and non-essential businesses in Quebec City and neighbouring Lévis to close for the next ten days. (Jacques Boissinot/The Canadian Press)

Quebec City Mayor Régis Labeaume indicated earlier in the day he felt the ball had been dropped. "I believe Quebec City has become very dangerous," he said.

The Quebec government eased restrictions in the Quebec City area earlier this month. Gyms were among the facilities allowed to reopen.

But over the weekend, health authorities closed Mega Gym 24H, saying an outbreak there had led to nearly 70 new cases of COVID-19.

The cost of big biceps

The gym is owned by Dan Marino, a vocal opponent of public health measures. On Wednesday, Labeaume blasted the gym's management for taking a lax approach to safety after reopening.

"Bravo champion," he said in French, which roughly translates as "way to go champ."

"Everyone has nice biceps but now people are sick."

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The gym reopened Monday, only to be ordered shut down again Tuesday, "until further notice."

A follow-up inspection had found several public health breaches, including not checking customers and workers for symptoms at the door, people working out within two metres of each other and inadequate protective measures for the staff.

And yet the gym was still open at 1 p.m. Wednesday, more than three hours after public health called, again, for an immediate shutdown. It wasn't until Quebec City police arrived that the shutdown order was enforced.

Leaving the gym Wednesday, one customer, Mario Bernard, said he was a little worried by the outbreak. The Latest
But he told Radio-Canada that he felt fine and didn't want to get tested, because he doesn't want to isolate for 14 days if his test comes back positive.

So far, there are 68 cases connected to the gym, and public health officials say outbreaks at eight workplaces in the region have been linked to it.

Another local gym owner told Radio-Canada the outbreak at Mega Gym 24H makes the entire industry look bad.

Gabriel Hardy, who owns the gym Le Chalet, said most places have been strictly following the health and safety guidelines for a year, and have shown they're willing to go above and beyond public health's standards.

AUDIO | COVID-19 - Public health says next few days will be critical for five Quebec regions:

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Quebec AM9:42COVID-19 - Public health says next few days will be critical for five Quebec regions

Public health in the Quebec City area is asking people to limit their contacts and stay home as much as possible, especially during the Easter weekend. Guest host Alison Brunette checks in with Dr. André Dontigny, the director of public health for the Capitale-Nationale region. 9:42

Time for a blanket approach?


Earlier on Wednesday, Quebec City Director of Public Health Dr. André Dontigny told Quebec AM that supplementary public health restrictions were needed.

Dontigny said that even though hospital capacity is under control now, the health-care system may not be able to cope with a sudden rise in patients.

"One thing that is sure at this moment, is that the epidemic is, in a certain way, out of control in the Capitale Nationale," he said.

"We need to amplify our measures, we need all the support of the collectivity because of this situation."

Dontigny had called for restrictions that went beyond those usually associated with the red-zone designation.
Other experts suggested it might be time for wall-to-wall heightened restrictions across the province.

"Going back to one single rule, or a set of rules that are really, really easy to understand and apply by everyone, that is an option," said Dr. François Marquis, the head of intensive care at Maisonneuve-Rosemont Hospital in Montreal.

The disadvantage, he noted, is that blanket rules would have to be more strict. But with the potential for large gatherings over Easter weekend, there is cause for concern.

The outbreak at Mega Gym 24H, he said, shows how quickly things can get out of hand.
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Here in Ontario, it was clear like in the second wave that Ford and Co. was late by 2-3 weeks to implement the needed restrictions. On the second wave, I even posted that at the time and said our Covid cases were guaranteed to spike up the next month or so. The posters here pretended it was unanticipated when it occurred as forecast.

I'm not sure Canada could have handled the vaccine issue any better practically speaking the problems eminated from government decisions made many years ago. Toronto used to have a world class vaccine production facility sold it to some French company. Our medical community has been as active and successful in research as anywhere really ( US being 9 times the size and probably 15-20++ times the financial power of course should have more discoveries ). Once shit hit the fan they've done some good things here procuring vaccines. However, the US does a ton of trade with Canada and it's in their best interest to control this virus globally. If a world power like Russia or China goes rogue or a catastrophe occurred much of the Western World kicks in. Trump never understood this least of all a dummy like TreeFrogTrader on this site. The US would be toast on the world stage without allies. Covid helps illustrate this again how vulnerable even the biggest player is.

Canada was sloppy on a few things but nowhere near as bad as Trump and if the US followed the deniers like Jem they'd be triple the deaths by now. I really am conflicted as to whether to confront some of these idiots or not. I don't think what they are preaching should be allowed to go unopposed but it's obvious they aren't operating on a full deck right now either.
 
For those who would like to see a troll liar... in action...
He claimed he never said they were dying...
They acts like I am the hysterical one...
What a troll loser.



The recent outbreak in Ontario has been directly linked to younger to middle aged adults catching the UK variant while out and about. And many are more critically ill and some dying in age groups the deniers on here would suggest won't ever happen. Our schools have actually been mostly open throughout but the UK variant changed things now.

vs...

You just seem desperate at this point, after all your Covid ideas being totally destroyed given enough time. What percentage of hospital beds with Covid patients under the age of 60 would you consider to be material ? There are enough to force the hospitals to delay other elective surgeries. The doctors are making these claims.

So you want to nitpick about post wording. Seems about right for you. When San Diego was running 5 times the Covid infection and death rates of Toronto, you just tried to ignore it. Are you even capable of considering the bigger picture, or is this just about your blessed beach time still ? You may be the most selfish asshole on this site.

Go ahead, show all your Covid posts to your family. See if they are impressed with your ideas. I had you blocked for more then a month ( or three ? ), that's how bad you were getting on here. Maybe a mistake addressing you but I feel some responsibility to out the worst Covid Deniers like yourself and your truly horrible ideas.
 
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You and gwb still do not get it. You would rather pursue shut downs of the low risk which have now been shown to fail multiple times rather than protecting the high risk directly...

Man you all are dense as fuck. And you make up bullshit arguments. San Diego did not do it correctly... we have a moron governor who it seems did things very much like Ontario... I have told you that at least a dozen times... but you just keep creating the same strawman bullshit. CA failed. Canada Failed.... Ontario keeps locking down... its insanity.


for instance... just a short list... here... many more useful things should have been done.

a. You have to educate high risk with the truth... about masks about catching covid in the home from family members. You have to explain clearly to them... that lots of dead and seriously ill people were masked up... an so were their family members, yet they still got it.

b. And as you ICUs get more crowded you have to tell fat people, old people, and people with co morbidities to stay home... alone or isolate areas of their home from family members.

The high risk should have been locked down better... not these half assed lockdowns for everyone.

Cease going out. Cease having family members over.

Have their necessities delivered. Create govt agencies and volunteers to help them stay isolated.

This is what local govts would have been doing if they cared enough instead of covering their butts and creating signs that said mask up stay safe.




You just seem desperate at this point, after all your Covid ideas being totally destroyed given enough time. What percentage of hospital beds with Covid patients under the age of 60 would you consider to be material ? There are enough to force the hospitals to delay other elective surgeries. The doctors are making these claims.

So you want to nitpick about post wording. Seems about right for you. When San Diego was running 5 times the Covid infection and death rates of Toronto, you just tried to ignore it. Are you even capable of considering the bigger picture, or is this just about your blessed beach time still ? You may be the most selfish asshole on this site.
 
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