Yannis, when the Republicans lose in the fall, will you promise to go back to the Jokes thread and stay there?
Can The Democrats Win This Election?
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IMAO: Ron Paul, President of Idaho?
"In the Idaho Republican primary Tuesday, Ron Paul actually got 24% of the vote -- something that would be quite a respectable showing were it a four way race and not already over. I guess it is kind of a slight against McCain, but I don't know who would really bother to vote in a decided presidential race except those who want to protest the result. And crazy people.
Anyway, Ron Paul now has tens of delegates to match McCain's thousands, and he plans to use them to win himself the presidency and usher on the rEVOLution. Here's the plan:
Phase 1: Secure a meager amount of delegates.
Phase 2: Come to the Republican National Convention and demand to be heard.
Phase 3: Realize no one is hearing you.
Phase 4: Shout that you will not be ignored.
Phase 5: Be ignored.
Phase 6: Knock over a chair in defiance of the system.
Phase 7: Head back to room at Motel 6.
Phase 8: Drink lots of cheap booze.
Phase 9: ?
Phase 10: Become president and reduce the size of the federal government until it can be run out of a kiosk at the mall.
This plan seems a lot more dynamic when Ronulans tell people about it because the replace the '?' from Phase 9 with "RON PAUL!""
"In the Idaho Republican primary Tuesday, Ron Paul actually got 24% of the vote -- something that would be quite a respectable showing were it a four way race and not already over. I guess it is kind of a slight against McCain, but I don't know who would really bother to vote in a decided presidential race except those who want to protest the result. And crazy people.
Anyway, Ron Paul now has tens of delegates to match McCain's thousands, and he plans to use them to win himself the presidency and usher on the rEVOLution. Here's the plan:
Phase 1: Secure a meager amount of delegates.
Phase 2: Come to the Republican National Convention and demand to be heard.
Phase 3: Realize no one is hearing you.
Phase 4: Shout that you will not be ignored.
Phase 5: Be ignored.
Phase 6: Knock over a chair in defiance of the system.
Phase 7: Head back to room at Motel 6.
Phase 8: Drink lots of cheap booze.
Phase 9: ?
Phase 10: Become president and reduce the size of the federal government until it can be run out of a kiosk at the mall.
This plan seems a lot more dynamic when Ronulans tell people about it because the replace the '?' from Phase 9 with "RON PAUL!""
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/20951/Barack-Obama’s-Unlikely-Supporter-Rupert-'Fox-News'-Murdoch?tickers=nws,msft,yhoo,nyt
Murdoch is a Zionist Jew who controls the media. If he says Obama is going to win, then he most likely well.
Of course, it does not matter if you vote Carpetbagger or Scalawag. Both parties may as well be the same.
Murdoch is a Zionist Jew who controls the media. If he says Obama is going to win, then he most likely well.
Of course, it does not matter if you vote Carpetbagger or Scalawag. Both parties may as well be the same.
Quote from Yannis:
IMAO: Ron Paul, President of Idaho?
"In the Idaho Republican primary Tuesday, Ron Paul actually got 24% of the vote -- something that would be quite a respectable showing were it a four way race and not already over. I guess it is kind of a slight against McCain, but I don't know who would really bother to vote in a decided presidential race except those who want to protest the result. And crazy people.
Anyway, Ron Paul now has tens of delegates to match McCain's thousands, and he plans to use them to win himself the presidency and usher on the rEVOLution. Here's the plan:
Phase 1: Secure a meager amount of delegates.
Phase 2: Come to the Republican National Convention and demand to be heard.
Phase 3: Realize no one is hearing you.
Phase 4: Shout that you will not be ignored.
Phase 5: Be ignored.
Phase 6: Knock over a chair in defiance of the system.
Phase 7: Head back to room at Motel 6.
Phase 8: Drink lots of cheap booze.
Phase 9: ?
Phase 10: Become president and reduce the size of the federal government until it can be run out of a kiosk at the mall.
This plan seems a lot more dynamic when Ronulans tell people about it because the replace the '?' from Phase 9 with "RON PAUL!""
This is a direct correlation to the fact that Ron Paul wants less government, because it was federal government that put a big dent in racism.
The popular vote did not end slavery.
The popular vote did not give the vote to blacks, or women.
The popular vote did not desegregate schools.
The popular vote did not end or at least reduce redlining.
So, the fact that Ron Paul carried IDAHO and is spoken well of by folks like VDare and Stormfront says a lot about Ron Paul's base.
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Democrats CANNOT win
Even though bush has really low poll rating nearly half of America will still vote for a republican over Obama.
Even though bush has really low poll rating nearly half of America will still vote for a republican over Obama.
Still Running Strong
"You have to ask yourself, who is the stronger candidate? And based on every analysis, of every bit of research and every poll that has been taken and every state that a Democrat has to win, I am the stronger candidate against John McCain in the fall."
-- Hillary Clinton, campaigning in Billings, Montana.
THE CLINTONS JUST HAVE TO WIN
By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
"In January 1998, right after The Washington Post revealed President Bill Clintonâs relationship with Monica, I spoke with him about his predicament. Shell-shocked and stunned at the calls for his impeachment, he knew he was facing the fight of his life. At first, he was vintage Bill Clinton: maudlin, sad and full of self-pity. But as we talked, he gradually changed his tone. Admitting that he was not innocent, but recognizing his diminishing support, he then told me defiantly: âWell, weâll just have to win.â
Several years later, I was surprised to read in Sidney Blumenthalâs memoirs that then-first lady Hillary Clinton had used the exact same words on the exact same day in a conversation with the White House aide. âWeâll just have to win.â
Thatâs how the Clintons think â no matter what, they have to win. Winning is everything, and how you do it is not determined by any inner sense of values or ethics, but by a resolve to do whatever needs to be done, no more and certainly no less. So, on that day in January 1998 â because they had to win â their campaign to discredit a 23-year-old intern began in the White House. Private investigators dug up her old boyfriends. White House operatives spread the word that it was the president who was the victim. The young woman was an unbalanced stalker.
As impeachment unfolded, the extramarital affairs of key members of the Republican leadership in the House were suddenly outed.
Hillary Clinton began the disinformation campaign. Appearing on âThe Today Show,â she righteously claimed that there was nothing to support Lewinskyâs claims and insisted that Bill was just âministeringâ to a âtroubled young woman.â Then came the blue dress and the Clintons finally â and reluctantly â changed gears.
But they never changed philosophies. Winning is still everything. No matter who gets destroyed, offended or hurt in the process.
Weâve seen it throughout Hillaryâs campaign: the race-baiting by Bill Clinton in South Carolina and by Hillary in Kentucky. His comparison of Obama to Jesse Jackson and her talk about âhard-working whitesâ was not accidental. The Clintons donât make verbal mistakes.
Everything they say is deliberate. And then Bill Clinton actually had the nerve to say that it was the Obama campaign and not him â that they had played the race card. Once again, heâs the victim.
Now Bill and Hillary are desperate to keep Hillary in the race. Despite mathematical impossibility, the Clintons are biding their time. Out of money and out of delegates, they are waiting for some unknown force to suddenly emerge and change the race. Thatâs why Hillary made the reference to Bobby Kennedy.
Because the Clintons know, better than most people, that time has often been a friend.
Anything can happen. Remember how, in 2001, they left the White House as pariahs amid the uproar about the last-minute pardons involving brothers of both of them, the hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts of china, silver and furniture that they arranged to get from donors, and the theft of White House furniture. They were in disgrace. Hillaryâs first press conference was a defense of her brothersâ payments for pardons. Both Clintons were lambasted by The New York Times, The Washington Post and every other media outlet. And, in Billâs last hours in office, he pleaded guilty to crime and was disbarred.
But seven years later, Hillary has come amazingly close to becoming the Democratic Party nominee. And until he destroyed his reputation by his bizarre and belligerent behavior in Hillaryâs campaign, Bill Clinton was the most popular guy in the world.
Time allowed Bill and Hillary to remake themselves â he as a save-the-world philanthropist and she as a hard-working senator who got along with everyone.
Just like time had turned the special counselâs draft indictment of Hillary into scrap paper, particularly after Jim McDougal, the chief witness, died in prison.
And time erased the memory of the Clintonsâ pardon of the FALN terrorist group to help Hillary with the Puerto Rican community.
But now time is finally running out for the Clintons. Theyâve stayed at the party too long, and it isnât a pretty sight. But they wonât leave gracefully. No way. They still believe that thereâs a chance to win. And theyâll do anything to make that happen.
Because they just have to win."
"You have to ask yourself, who is the stronger candidate? And based on every analysis, of every bit of research and every poll that has been taken and every state that a Democrat has to win, I am the stronger candidate against John McCain in the fall."
-- Hillary Clinton, campaigning in Billings, Montana.
THE CLINTONS JUST HAVE TO WIN
By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
"In January 1998, right after The Washington Post revealed President Bill Clintonâs relationship with Monica, I spoke with him about his predicament. Shell-shocked and stunned at the calls for his impeachment, he knew he was facing the fight of his life. At first, he was vintage Bill Clinton: maudlin, sad and full of self-pity. But as we talked, he gradually changed his tone. Admitting that he was not innocent, but recognizing his diminishing support, he then told me defiantly: âWell, weâll just have to win.â
Several years later, I was surprised to read in Sidney Blumenthalâs memoirs that then-first lady Hillary Clinton had used the exact same words on the exact same day in a conversation with the White House aide. âWeâll just have to win.â
Thatâs how the Clintons think â no matter what, they have to win. Winning is everything, and how you do it is not determined by any inner sense of values or ethics, but by a resolve to do whatever needs to be done, no more and certainly no less. So, on that day in January 1998 â because they had to win â their campaign to discredit a 23-year-old intern began in the White House. Private investigators dug up her old boyfriends. White House operatives spread the word that it was the president who was the victim. The young woman was an unbalanced stalker.
As impeachment unfolded, the extramarital affairs of key members of the Republican leadership in the House were suddenly outed.
Hillary Clinton began the disinformation campaign. Appearing on âThe Today Show,â she righteously claimed that there was nothing to support Lewinskyâs claims and insisted that Bill was just âministeringâ to a âtroubled young woman.â Then came the blue dress and the Clintons finally â and reluctantly â changed gears.
But they never changed philosophies. Winning is still everything. No matter who gets destroyed, offended or hurt in the process.
Weâve seen it throughout Hillaryâs campaign: the race-baiting by Bill Clinton in South Carolina and by Hillary in Kentucky. His comparison of Obama to Jesse Jackson and her talk about âhard-working whitesâ was not accidental. The Clintons donât make verbal mistakes.
Everything they say is deliberate. And then Bill Clinton actually had the nerve to say that it was the Obama campaign and not him â that they had played the race card. Once again, heâs the victim.
Now Bill and Hillary are desperate to keep Hillary in the race. Despite mathematical impossibility, the Clintons are biding their time. Out of money and out of delegates, they are waiting for some unknown force to suddenly emerge and change the race. Thatâs why Hillary made the reference to Bobby Kennedy.
Because the Clintons know, better than most people, that time has often been a friend.
Anything can happen. Remember how, in 2001, they left the White House as pariahs amid the uproar about the last-minute pardons involving brothers of both of them, the hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts of china, silver and furniture that they arranged to get from donors, and the theft of White House furniture. They were in disgrace. Hillaryâs first press conference was a defense of her brothersâ payments for pardons. Both Clintons were lambasted by The New York Times, The Washington Post and every other media outlet. And, in Billâs last hours in office, he pleaded guilty to crime and was disbarred.
But seven years later, Hillary has come amazingly close to becoming the Democratic Party nominee. And until he destroyed his reputation by his bizarre and belligerent behavior in Hillaryâs campaign, Bill Clinton was the most popular guy in the world.
Time allowed Bill and Hillary to remake themselves â he as a save-the-world philanthropist and she as a hard-working senator who got along with everyone.
Just like time had turned the special counselâs draft indictment of Hillary into scrap paper, particularly after Jim McDougal, the chief witness, died in prison.
And time erased the memory of the Clintonsâ pardon of the FALN terrorist group to help Hillary with the Puerto Rican community.
But now time is finally running out for the Clintons. Theyâve stayed at the party too long, and it isnât a pretty sight. But they wonât leave gracefully. No way. They still believe that thereâs a chance to win. And theyâll do anything to make that happen.
Because they just have to win."
A candidate needs 270 electoral votes to be president.
If Obama picks Bill Richardson, he will carry:
California-55
Texas-34
Florida-27
New Mexico-5
Arizona-10
Alone he will carry:
New York-31
Illinois-21
Georgia-15
North Carolina-15
South Carolina-8
That's 222 electoral votes right there, and these are probable locks for Obama. Blacks, Latinos, and college white alone will allow the Obama ticket to carry these states.
These states all in play, because the conservative base just might stay at home.
Pennsylvania-21
Ohio-20
Michigan-17
Winsconsin-10
Minnesota-10
Washington-11
Oregon-7
John McCain MUST sweep the in play states or he is a dead duck in the electoral college.
So nearly half of America will not do the job.
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To add to the above post, think states with metropolises and megolopalises. In Illinois, for example, an overwhelming victory in Cook County will carry the state.
Obama will win states like these, voter turnout will be a record, rest assured.
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Obama will win states like these, voter turnout will be a record, rest assured.
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Quote from Almond_Dragoon:
A candidate needs 270 electoral votes to be president.
If Obama picks Bill Richardson, he will carry:
California-55
Texas-34
Florida-27
New Mexico-5
Arizona-10
Alone he will carry:
New York-31
Illinois-21
Georgia-15
North Carolina-15
South Carolina-8
That's 222 electoral votes right there, and these are probable locks for Obama. Blacks, Latinos, and college white alone will allow the Obama ticket to carry these states.
These states all in play, because the conservative base just might stay at home.
Pennsylvania-21
Ohio-20
Michigan-17
Winsconsin-10
Minnesota-10
Washington-11
Oregon-7
John McCain MUST sweep the in play states or he is a dead duck in the electoral college.
So nearly half of America will not do the job.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. With Richardson, he will probably get NM, but that will be his only net Latino gain. Latinos can't stand the guy in general, especially in Florida, where those of Cuban ancestry despise Obama for cuddling up to despots around around the World. The large elderly population in FL won't support him either. No way in hell he takes Florida, unless McCain has a stroke by then (possible).
OB obviously won't take Mac's home state where he is a 4 term senator.
Latest polls are now giving Ohio and MI to Mac, albeit barely (source electoral-vote.com). Obama needs both of those to win.
It is Obama that has serious electoral problems, not McCain. I do believe Obama may slaughter Mac in the popular vote, and still lose. Cal and NY will go heavily his way.
I personally want both of them to lose.