Yes and NNs are of no interest to me, for a variety of reasons...Quote from TheGoonior:
As with any highly non-linear system, the further you move away from the operating point, the worse your model becomes. I'm skeptical that linear regression can consistently give you an edge (although I'm sure there are those who make it work for them...my hat's off to you, as I never found it useful).
As a school project, I did some work in recurrent neural networks as predictors for non-linear time series. These are highly adaptive (they were re-trained after every data point) and actually modeled the time series (I grabbed some speech waveforms) and I always meant to go back and see what would happen with stock data.
It was kind of a CPU hog and there was an art to training the networks, so I never pursued it.
Anybody else ever use neural networks for this type of thing? (Hope this isn't too far off topic, so OP let me know and I'll move to another thread if necessary)
Quote from Martinghoul:
Yes and NNs are of no interest to me, for a variety of reasons...
The beauty of simple regression is its intuitiveness. Normally, people are happy to sacrifice some degree of robustness.
Quote from bwolinsky:
Linear regression as I use it is for one of two things:
1)To assign a value that the market may place on 1 more dollar of revenue, assets, 1 more percent of ROE, etc
2) The other way is by regressing closing prices over recent time periods to predict tomorrows value, two days from now value, and three days from now value, not because I actually use that value, but because linear regression shows the "trend", and that's how it's meant to be used in the context of trading system development. If your predicted value is higher two days from now, the trend points higher, if your predicted value for tomorrow is lower, the trend is also lower, and you shouldn't fight it. For a history of QLD's predicted values, you can see my thread BWolinsky trading. Today, I will most likely post more predicted values, as I said, not because they mean anything to me other than that they keep you from fighting trends in the market. It's corollary is testing fitness. Using rsquared, we can see how accurately those values hold, but it's only relevant over short time periods.
Nothing can predict the future.Quote from tradrejoe:
For those of you who went through the exercise of using historical data and linear regression analysis to predict the future prices of trading instruments, have you ran into situations where the best beta coefficients that generates the best curve fitting *does not* really predict the future? In fact, often times if you go back in history and pretend you were operating the prediction system in the past, the more testing the more your accuracy converge to just 50%?
What is the correlation between the ability of a set of time series data to fit a price curve and its ability to truely forecast the future with greater than 50% accuracy? Do we just pile up everything closely related to what we try to forecast (even sun spot movements) and go as far back on the time lag as we can without crashing the supercomputer? Does anyone have any experience to share? Thanks for your insights ahead of time.
Quote from dandxg:
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