Can I sue the pants off of websites for popups?

Quote from dbphoenix:

Your browser will take care of all that if you can determine the source of the popups. Change your cookie settings to Prompt. Then, when you get the prompt, if the cookie is from an advertising source (ET has, I believe, two), just copy and paste the URL into your browser's screener. I had to do that with ET's ads and the cookies are disabled. NEVER accept all cookies from anyplace.

As for all those annoying little popups, many of which don't provide a source, you'll need a popup killer. I assume you're not dumb enough to accept an .exe file from me, but if you do a search on Google or at CNET downloads, you shouldn't have any trouble finding one. They're usually free.

[Edit: I just did a Google search using "pop up killer" -- no quotes -- and there are plenty to choose from. They're itty bitty utilities with a lot of muscle. They're change your life.]

DB, thank you for the advice...and assuming I am not dumb. :D
 
Quote from Maverick74:

I actually have a pop up killer and they still get through.

Then you need a better browser (MSFT isn't exactly rigorous about this given their relationships with the people who create the popups in the first place; you'll note that many of them come through MSN). I had to switch to Firefox because of this hijacker-parasite I picked up and which nobody could get rid of and it is far superior to IE. And it's free.
 
Quote from indahook:

DB, thank you for the advice...and assuming I am not dumb. :D

Note also what I said to Maverick. A lot of these popups have the MS imprimatur, even though they don't come from MS, and it's next to impossible to get rid of them. But since I switched to Firefox, I haven't seen a one.

FY, Microsoft! :mad:
 
Quote from Maverick74:

I have this same problem. I know what you are talking about. I get them when I open up ET sometimes. I think what it is, is there is a program that got downloaded from another site to trigger ads on internet explorer. If anyone knows what this program is and how to delete it let me know. It's very annoying. It's annoying because not only do these adds pop up, but they open a whole new browser which actually takes away from your system resources. So it slows your whole system down. And when you get 5 or 6 of them at once, it actually paralyzes your whole system for about 10 seconds. I would love to kill these f*cking people who designed this. I could deal with the old pop ups because you could get rid of them right away. These you actually have to wait for the entire ad to load up on your browser or you risk freezing your whole system. Come on Nitro or somebody, what is the deal with these?

Well, you assessed the problem correctly. Through some means, you have downloaded some "adware" onto your machine, which has now installed itself as a windows-based program and is monitoring the sites you visit, and then sending ads to you based upon your browsing habits. Most people get this sort of junk on their system from downloading trial software of all types. Basically here's how it works. You go to a site that has some sort of software to sell you. For the sake of argument, let's say it's a file sharing program so you can download MP3s. It doesn't have to be that though, it could be any type of software, even something trading related like front-end software for IB order entry.

So you download the software and quickly click through all the legal stuff and installation prompts. Before you know it, you've installed the software and you're up and running. Unfortunately, buried in that legal agreement you clicked "Accept" on during the installation process, it says that you are also installing other software as well. Probably during the installation process, there was some small checkbox that you could have unchecked to prevent this, but they purposely made it really easy to miss.

So in addition to the file sharing program, you could have installed 3 or 4 other programs which do all sorts of stuff without you knowing about it such as tracking the web sites you visit, how long you stay online, and other information that will help them develop a profile of you. Then, they use that data to start sending advertisements to you in the form of popups.

Using a pop-up blocker in this case is really just using software to block other software on your machine from doing what its supposed to. In the end, you have all these programs running on your machine just to keep things feeling normal. The best thing to do is not waste your time installing popup blocking software, but instead remove the programs that are doing all this work behind your back. A friend of mine got a laptop a few weeks ago and it became almost totally worthless a few days ago. He gave it to me and wanted me to figure out what the problem was. Through whatever means, he had about 7 different adware/spyware programs running in the background on that machine which had totally slowed the peformance down to a crawl.

The best way to get rid of these programs is to uninstall them from the control panel in Windows using the Add/Remove Programs icon. You may find you have a lot of adware and spyware installed on your system that you never even knew was on there. Some typical adware/spyware programs are "DealBag", "Gator", "Internet Search Tools", and "Insterstitial Ad delivery".

Needless to say, it's a real pain in the butt getting a system cleaned up after it's been infected with a bunch of garbage programs.
 
Thanks Baron. That's exactly it. I think I got mine through Kaza awhile back. I started noticing it shortly after downloading it. Limewire does the same thing but it's not nearly as bad. I will look and see if I can find these programs and remove them. Thanks for the explanation.
 
If using XP, will a restore back to a clean point get rid of any Adware software that just got installed?
I have found that anytime I get a sniff of something being wrong with my laptop, restoring back to a few weeks before seems to get rid of any problems.

PS, Maverick. I also picked up a load of shit from Kazaa a while ago. System restore fixed the problem then.
 
Quote from indahook:

I am in a trade....getting close to being stopped out so I close the webpage I am looking at and get bombarded with dozens of popups. These popups invade my order entry screen covering everything thus blocking my attempt to exit the trade. I get absolutely smoked because the only way to stop them it to shutdown. Any recourse?

Indahook,

Sounds like your trading (broker execution platform) and surfing the net on the same computer...

Highly not recommended.

Instead of using your money to sue or to use up financial resources...

Get a second computer.

Use one computer strictly for trading and the other computer for surfing the net, games, chat communication et cetera.

It's what I do.

I also have Zone Alarm Pro, Pest Patrol and Ad-Aware on both desktops and my laptop.

Never had any problems.

I also disable the Microsoft Messenger thing on all 3 systems.

However, prior to my current setup.

I did everything from one computer...

A pain in the royal butt.

Look at it this way...a computer for critical work (trading) and a different computer for non-critical work...

All part of treating our trading like a business.

NihabaAshi
 
Quote from NihabaAshi:

Indahook,

Sounds like your trading (broker execution platform) and surfing the net on the same computer...

Highly not recommended.


All part of treating our trading like a business.

NihabaAshi

Yes..learned a lesson today (invaluable)

Agreed...I admit to being overly complacent in the security department. That will change from this point going forward.

Chris.
 
Quote from macal425:

If using XP, will a restore back to a clean point get rid of any Adware software that just got installed?
I have found that anytime I get a sniff of something being wrong with my laptop, restoring back to a few weeks before seems to get rid of any problems.

It can. Unfortunately, some of the bad advice one receives is to turn off the System Restore function when trying to expunge these programs. Since they're not that easily expunged, one winds up pretty much where he started, but his restoration date has been changed to that day.
 
Quote from Baron:


Using a pop-up blocker in this case is really just using software to block other software on your machine from doing what its supposed to. In the end, you have all these programs running on your machine just to keep things feeling normal. The best thing to do is not waste your time installing popup blocking software, but instead remove the programs that are doing all this work behind your back.

Unfortunately, this is easier said than done, for a variety of reasons. It's unlikely that I will ever get rid of this hijacking parasite that I have. In the meantime, popup killers and a new browser enable me to get on with it. Plus, with the new browser, the machine's running faster, not slower.
 
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