Can broker move stocks against daytraders?

[Walter]

Does anyone can describe a possibility to move a stock against a daytrader? May it be done by his broker or proprietary company? Is it makes sense for them and how they can do that?

 

[Turveyd]

It just appears that way, realistically, it would take so much volume it's not worth the brokers time, they just want your commisions.

Having a bad, everything is moving to the SL then reversing I guess ? all been there!

 

[Walter]

what about the situations, when you enter a market with 5k volume and reaction is opposite moving. When you paper trade or backtesting, result is different. Could it be market reaction on intraday human volume ?

 

[Turveyd]

Well, your going to create a short term effect to the market, but there are 100Mil+ Participants, so it's hard to say, I'm sure the same effect happens at times from a paper trade, it's more likely the reason why you took the trade, which is causing the effect / lose your seeing.

No body is out to get you, well there all equally out to get you and take your money, don't take it personally.

 

[zdreg]

It just appears that way, realistically, it would take so much volume it's not worth the brokers time, they just want your commisions.

Having a bad, everything is moving to the SL then reversing I guess ? all been there!

OP has 2 posts and you throw an acronym at him.
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ps OP stands for original poster

 

[K-Pia]

OP has 2 posts and you throw an acronym at him.
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ps OP stands for original poster

But you have 9K posts and still not able to say something meaningful.
Looks like some have difficulties, where other have facilities.
As 9K posts don't mean knowledgeable,
2 posts don't mean stupid.

 

[Walter]

ok, best way I think to make video of 1-5k orders frontrunnig and blocking. Is it helps to find the answer for this question? Currently execution I have through ETC-clearing, is it matters?

 

[Walter]

and about paper trade. I haven't influence on l2 when paper trade. It becomes crazy when I sending orders. Who trades near nbbo I think should see the same effect. My stocks have 1m+ in day average volume

 

[K-Pia]

Does anyone can describe a possibility to move a stock against a daytrader? May it be done by his broker or proprietary company? Is it makes sense for them and how they can do that?

Do you feel like being cheated ?
I think the daytrader is his own, worst, enemy.
Even if everyone wants to take your money. Ethically or not.

To make someone's position a loosing bet is hard.
You can manipulate a market, by controlling the fundamentals.
Like spreadsheets, meetings, supplies, news or whatever.
But hardly with your own orders directly in the market.
Market Makers can widen their spreads (Risk Averse)
But can't move a market against you. Really.

Conspiracy Theories are everywhere.
But it's not by knowing that someone wants to run your stops.
That you will be able to be a winner in that game...

 

[K-Pia]

and about paper trade. I haven't influence on l2 when paper trade. It becomes crazy when I sending orders. Who trades near nbbo I think should see the same effect. My stocks have 1m+ in day average volume

You papertrade and scream for manipulation ?
Who would like to steal your fake money, fake orders ?