can anybody sue trump over his manipulation over the market?

[trader99]

his tweet claimed great news and closer to deal with china, which caused stock to rise sharply in the morning. someone has a big loss due to the tweet. but on weekend, there is no deal coming out. can the trader sue trump?

I actually traded some QQQ puts. Got chickened out and took profits too soon. It doubled in like 40mins or so. Of course, it sank after that. I made a pittance shorting NQ but got out too soon.

So there are opportunities to make money on the SHORT side as well as the LONG side. Just gotta be nimble...

 

[FriskyCat]

zdreg said:
Many of the Trump haters work for local government. The rise in the stock market increases the chance they will collect their overblown pensions,

Are you capable of giving a more informative reply?

You are wrong on multiple counts. Encouraging the Fed to continually repress rates and force pension admin's to chase yield lower has created the massive underfunding crisis in most state pensions. Secondly, I do not work for the public sector, I'm probably one of the more vocal opponents of public sector largesse as it becomes an untenable anchor on the taxpayer (leading to cuts in services while state budgets are strained by pension obligations, etc.)

Your turn.

 

[volpri]

He will shoot up the market with adrenaline as much as possible and when his term ends, the heart attack will arrive and we're left with a corpse. He'll never admit responsibility though.

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[AAAintheBeltway]

Because of the alternatives, I support Trump, but he needs to stop doing this. He has to know it gooses the markets, and it's irresponsible. One, because it weakens his position against the Chinese, who are ruthless negotiators. Two, because it makes him sound like Elon Musk and his $420 buyout that never came.

 

[Cuddles]

The decline in life expectancy lines up perfectly with when Obamacare came into effect. It's probably not the only factor though, but I'd say its a decent portion.

Total b.s.

 

[Cuddles]

He will shoot up the market with adrenaline as much as possible and when his term ends, the heart attack will arrive and we're left with a corpse. He'll never admit responsibility though.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/11/tru...lower-the-national-debt-woodward-reports.html
Trump told Gary Cohn to 'print money' to lower the national debt, according to Bob Woodward's book

• "Just run the presses — print money," Trump said, according to Woodward, during a discussion on the national debt with Gary Cohn, former director of the White House National Economic Council.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-on-coming-debt-crisis-i-wont-be-here-when-it-blows-up
Trump on Coming Debt Crisis: ‘I Won’t Be Here’ When It Blows Up
The president thinks the balancing of the nation’s books is going to, ultimately, be a future president’s problem.

 

[Amun Ra]

WTF, are you really that blinded by partisanship that you allege, with absolutely no evidence or even common sense, that an increase in the amount of health care coverage for a population caused a decrease in life expectancy? Listen to yourself man, you're pitiful!

Leaving a factor out of your equation there, bud. If you increase the amount of people seeing doctors, but don't increase the amount of healthcare workers by the same percentage, you either have to overwork the current supply of medical staff(which leads to increased medical errors which is the 3rd leading cause of death in the US) or you increase wait times for people that can't afford to wait and they die waiting for treatment.

This is a trading website. I assumed that people here have a decent understanding of supply & demand. Guess I was wrong. Maybe next time don't jump all over someone before you start accusing them of partisanship and then name calling if you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Cuddles]

Leaving a factor out of your equation there, bud. If you increase the amount of people seeing doctors, but don't increase the amount of healthcare workers by the same percentage, you either have to overwork the current supply of medical staff(which leads to increased medical errors which is the 3rd leading cause of death in the US) or you increase wait times for people that can't afford to wait and they die waiting for treatment.

This is a trading website. I assumed that people here have a decent understanding of supply & demand. Guess I was wrong. Maybe next time don't jump all over someone before you start accusing them of partisanship and then name calling if you don't know what you're talking about.

thanks Obama! Oh wait...

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...rising-drug-overdose-suicide-rates-180970942/
U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row, Reflecting Rising Drug Overdoses, Suicides
Drop represents longest sustained decline in expected lifespan since the tumultuous period of 1915 to 1918

According to Ars Technica’s Beth Mole, 2015 marked the first recorded drop in U.S. life expectancy since 1993, with Americans shaving an average of 0.1 years off of their lifespans. The same proved true in 2016 and 2017, Cathleen O’Grady writes in a separate Ars Technica piece, making the latest projection 78.6 years, down 0.3 years from 2015’s 78.8. Broken down by gender, men could expect to live an average of 76.1 years, down from 76.2 in 2016, while women could anticipate living until 81.1, the same age projected in 2016.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/life-expectancy-for-american-men-drops-for-a-third-year/
Life expectancy for American men drops for a third year

• Life expectancy for U.S. men slipped for a third straight year, according to new data from the National Center for Health Statistics.
• The average male lifespan stood at 76.1 years in 2017, a four-month decline since 2014.
• Drug overdose rates for men are almost twice as high as a decade ago.

Damn you socialized healthcare! Damn you to hell!

 

[Sig]

(which leads to increased medical errors which is the 3rd leading cause of death in the US).

You really are living in la la land aren't you? The third leading cause of death in the U.S. is accidents, not medical accidents, but all unintentional injuries from any source (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_06-508.pdf). Either CDC is fake news or every accident would have to be a medical error for that statistic to be true. You can read here (https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ar...ommon-cause-of-death-in-the-u-s-2019-edition/) why that assertion is both wrong and simply absurd, if you can be bothered to actually read a nuanced discussion of a complex subject rather than just spew the garbage you hear in your echo chamber.

Not to mention that a bunch of intelligent experts who actually study mortality for a living, unlike you or I, have actually quantified in significant detail what the causes of increased mortality are. Turns out that death from suicide, chronic liver disease and cirrhosis, and illegal drug overdoses are responsible for the majority of the increase in mortality.....none of which have jack shit to do with your crazy bullshit about mistakes in hospitals caused by more people having insurance! (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus18.pdf)

It's really just unbelievable that we have what I presume to be otherwise intelligent humans out there who are so blinded by ideology that they ignore both common sense and massive bodies of quantitative data to pull complete bullshit out their ass in order to support their beliefs. That says pretty much all that needs to be said about the quality of those beliefs.

This is a trading website. I assumed that people here have a decent understanding of data and analyzing data. Guess I was wrong.

 

[Amun Ra]

You really are living in la la land aren't you? The third leading cause of death in the U.S. is accidents, not medical accidents, but all unintentional injuries from any source (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_06-508.pdf). Either CDC is fake news or every accident would have to be a medical error for that statistic to be true. You can read here (https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ar...ommon-cause-of-death-in-the-u-s-2019-edition/) why that assertion is both wrong and simply absurd, if you can be bothered to actually read a nuanced discussion of a complex subject rather than just spew the garbage you hear in your echo chamber.

Not to mention that a bunch of intelligent experts who actually study mortality for a living, unlike you or I, have actually quantified in significant detail what the causes of increased mortality are. Turns out that death from suicide, chronic liver disease and cirrhosis, and illegal drug overdoses are responsible for the majority of the increase in mortality.....none of which have jack shit to do with your crazy bullshit about mistakes in hospitals caused by more people having insurance! (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus18.pdf)

It's really just unbelievable that we have what I presume to be otherwise intelligent humans out there who are so blinded by ideology that they ignore both common sense and massive bodies of quantitative data to pull complete bullshit out their ass in order to support their beliefs. That says pretty much all that needs to be said about the quality of those beliefs.

This is a trading website. I assumed that people here have a decent understanding of data and analyzing data. Guess I was wrong.

CDC only counts the underlying cause of death. If you're dying of cancer and you go into the hospital for chemo and you die because the doctor gave you the wrong drug, it's counted as dying from cancer. The reason the CDC does it this way is so they can have comparable death statistics with the rest of the international community and countries can compare. In other words, other countries don't count medical errors so they don't.

https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139

This is a trading website. I assumed that people that have a decent understanding of data and analyzing data would also have an understanding how that data is compiled. I guess I was wrong. Or maybe you were just so blinded by your ideology and took offense I insulted your god Obama, you didn't want to check or even understand where I got my "crazy bullshit that I pulled out of my ass" from.