Can a Graduate Degree from Oxford U help me get a salaried position in trading?

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Quote from TGregg:

Take me for example. I scored an IQ of 142 on one test, and 138 on the other (on the same day, one test right after the other). Strangely, on the 142 test I was not good enough to get into Mensa (97%), while on the 138 test I was at 99%!

142 on the first test and 138 on the next...

maybe you're losing about 4 points per day! -- hey, what was the date of that first test??

:(
 
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142 on the first test and 138 on the next...

maybe you're losing about 4 points per day! -- hey, what was the date of that first test??

:(

Sorry.. TG.

LOL....!!!!!!!
 
Quote from FreedomPhighter:



I had some free time so I thought I'd entertain myself with some of the responses I have had on here. You leeches can read into my original post to whatever great extent you desire and extract whatever "inferiority complexes" you wish from it (don't forget that it is your failure to succeed in trading which looks for such inferiority complexes in others). The fact of the matter remains, however: I asked a simple question which most people on here, out of PURE ENVY or plain IDIOCY, just couldn't bring themselves to answer in a positive way (and no, positive way DOES NOT mean "in the way I want it answered"). You people must be just too fucking STUPID to understand what my question was in the first place. Did I ask whether an Oxford degree would PREPARE ME for a job in trading? Absolutely NOT!! Yet I have all of these responses stating: graduate school cannot prepare you for trading.

I simply asked whether having a Pure Mathematics Oxford Degree on my resume would help me to get interviews for jobs in trading (i.e. am i better off with Oxford on my resume, without Oxford on my resume, or is it just the same either way?). Even Mr. M.I.T. didn't grasp the meaning of my question. He starts explaining how graduate school will not prepare me for what lies ahead in trading (WOW what a fucking idiot....was that my question?.... LOL)

So the problem is not with me attempting to get a particular answer to my question. But rather, the traders on here posting answers to questions I didn't ask. Something obviously pisses people off on here about my original post. I KNOW it is envy. I know that nearly every response on here reflects that envy. To be honest, were I in any of your shoes, I'd be envious too!

It's not that I think I am better than you.......I KNOW I am better than you! That's the bottom line. I suppose the disdain comes into play when you too realize that I am better than you. This is understandable.

By the way, how many of you traders made money in your first four months of trading? Doesn't matter since I am probably through with this forum.

I have used all of my free time and need to attend to more pressing matters.

By the way, New York University, my alma mater, is waay better than MIT in applied mathematics (i.e. the melding of mathematics and computer science). Just thought you might be interested in that since you are BS MIT grad yourself.

Also, you say your parents immigrated from a third world country but you didn't happen to mention what they do for a living. I hate it when people claim poverty but in reality know nothing of it.

Obeisantly,


FF,

Did you win or placed in the Putnam exam? Before you go bashing MIT, at least MIT and Harvard have students who constantly ranked high or even won in the Putnam exams(the hardest math competition in the world)? I rarely see NYU in the top 5 ranked Putnam winners.

As to the applied math program that combines both math and computer science, MIT has a good combo program ran by Prof Tom Leighton. He was one of my advisors(I had several cuz of multiple majors). He also help founded Akamai. And the Theory of Computation group has Rivest of RSA. Parrallel algorithms and computtation group has Nancy Lynch. These are all clear giants and leaders in applied math in computation.

Of course, Harvard has ton of good applied math people but better pure math people. Persi Diaconis, who now left for Stanford, but for the longest time taught at Harvard. As an interesting side-note to all ET members and an inspiration, Diaconis NEVER had formal education in math until his 20s. He was like travelling MAGICIAN doing his magic tricks throughout his teens. Then in his mid 20s, he decided to study mathematics at SUNY. So, it's NEVER too late to learn if you desire so!
And later on, became a renown math profesor at Harvard.

In fact, SUNY at Stony Brook probably has better math program than NYU. At least, they had John Milnor. If you don't know who he is then you are not that hardcore of a math dude. hehe.

In general, I must admit that NYU has a decent math program. An ex-quant colleague I used to work with has a MS from Princeton and Phd from NYU. Solid guy. NYU has a really good quant fin program too. And a fellow classmate of mine took some quant finance classes at NYU and he said it's pretty solid and good.

But the top 4 math programs in the nation are still Harvard, MIT, Princeton, and Berkeley.

Not to put down Oxford or anything, but it has lost its leadership in math a while back to the great American math universities like Harvard and MIT for decades now. After Prof Hardy (a la number theorist) and Whitehead, it hadn't done much. I haven't seen or heard of a Field medalists from Oxford recently. Actually, except for Donaldson and Atiyah which I both highly respect who won the Fields Medal from Oxford. But Atiyah later left Oxford for Cambridge.

trader99

P.S. When Grigori (Grisha) Perelman of the Steklov Institute of Mathematics solved the Poincare Conjecture, he went to MIT to give a lecture at 10-250 lecture hall. I don't see him coming to NYU to give his proofs.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/news/2003-04-15/poincare/
 
FF,

I went to this webpage:

http://www.maths.ox.ac.uk/admissions/postgrad/courses/mscmafcs/

Not a bad program. Fairly rigorous. Covering even very general stuff like Lie Algebra and Representation Theory. A bit of overkill for studying cs though. haha!

Computational Methods for Finite Fields should be interesting. I learned some of that back when I was only in high school working on a science fair project. But obviously, it's not to that level. But still good stuff. Over time, I've drifted from discrete algebraic stuff to move continuous stuff.


well, good luck

-99
 
Quote from candletrader:

I feel kinda sorry for the BS that femdomfrighter's class is gonna have to put up with...

You know how there is always one a$$hole in a class raising his hand and asking question after question in an attempt to gain attention and tell everyone how bright they think they are.....

I predict:
1. FF has already adopted an English accent as he tries to get laid in NYC with the: "cheerio, I'm from Oxfurd" schtick.

2. He'll need to find another game to prop up his ego and insecurities since the Oxford Schtick won't work in Oxford.

FF, kind of reminds me of the bird in American Pie: "when in band camp I stuck my flute ..."
 
Quote from alterego:




2. He'll need to find another game to prop up his ego and insecurities since the Oxford Schtick won't work in Oxford.


Yes, paradoxically his relative triteness is likely to stick out like a sore thumb when he is living in the midst of other Oxford students... it could indeed be a befittingly humbling experience for him... at the same time it could be a highly constructive experience for him, in that he will be rapidly relieved of the artificial pedestal of superiority that he has created for himself...
 
If this thread truly is a joke then many of us have been taken for a ride, myself included. But what the the heck, it sure did liven things up around here:D
 
Quote from candletrader:

I feel kinda sorry for the BS that femdomfrighter's class is gonna have to put up with...


And the funny thing is, FF will finally be a small fish in a big pond. He might be top student at NYU but he'll meet his match and beyond at Oxford. He was a big fish in a small pond. Then he'll realize he might no longer be the "best" when he's in class with some of the best students in the world, not just at NYU. They might even laugh behind his back.

-99
 
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