California Policies creating inequality as middle leaves

you see California is the petri dish or rising inequality.
you bring in the poor who suck of the govt and you drive out the tax payers with crazy high taxes.

Only 30 percent of us make enough to pay income taxes and we driving out middle aged tax payers.

Don't the morons running the govt understand that this is not sustainable? nor is it wise or just?

Help the poor but don't crush those who work.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/19/cal...ousing-costs-and-taxes-are-fleeing-state.html

'Highest taxes in USA'
Even Republican California Rep. Devin Nunes took a swipe at his state last week in a tweet, calling it out for the "highest taxes in USA that make it hard for people to afford to live there."


Devin Nunes‏Verified account@DevinNunes
My daughter sees @TuckerCarlson report on TV saying California is becoming 3rd world and asks me why. I tell her CA has highest taxes in USA that make it hard for people to afford to live here. She responds “Don’t you get paid to fix it?”

Californians fed up with housing costs and taxes are fleeing state in big numbers 2 Hours Ago | 01:00
Californians may still love the beautiful weather and beaches, but more and more they are fed up with the high housing costs and taxes and deciding to flee to lower-cost states such as Nevada, Arizona and Texas.

"There's nowhere in the United States that you can find better weather than here," said Dave Senser, who lives on a fixed income near San Luis Obispo, California, and now plans to move to Las Vegas. "Rents here are crazy, if you can find a place, and they're going to tax us to death. That's what it feels like. At least in Nevada they don't have a state income tax. And every little bit helps."

Senser, 65, who previously lived in the east San Francisco Bay region, said housing costs and gas prices are "significantly lower in Las Vegas. The government in the state of California isn't helping people like myself. That's why people are running out of this state now."

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Outbound migration
He said the latest Census Bureau data, from July 2016 to July 2017, show "more people moved out of California to other states than moved in from other states. In other words, California lost people due to domestic migration."

During that 12-month period, California saw a net loss of just over 138,000 people, while Texas had a net increase of more than 79,000 people. Arizona gained more than 63,000 residents, and Nevada gained more than 38,000.

"You can literally have a lot of buying power for the dollar in Southern Nevada versus Southern California," said Christopher Bishop, president of the Greater Las Vegas Association of Realtors. "So it has been a major trend over the year, year and a half, and we're seeing it increase."

Bishop said some people who work for Silicon Valley companies are even working remotely from home in Las Vegas to avoid the higher housing costs in California. But he added, "Most of the people are here because of our growing job market and industries in Las Vegas — and it's not all about casinos anymore."

Data from United Van Lines show some of the most popular moving destinations for Californians from 2015 to 2017 were Texas, Arizona, Oregon, Washington and Colorado. Other experts also said Nevada remains a top destination.

Regardless, some people still want to move to California but are finding it tough to do so because of the high cost of housing.

Trying to return
Michelle Lynn Ostroff, who left the Los Angeles area in 2013, now lives outside Cleveland, Ohio, with her daughter and wants to return to California to be closer to her friends and family. But she's been discouraged from returning so far due to monthly rental prices.

"I'm finding it very hard to make that happen, as finding a place that's affordable is tough," said Ostroff. The L.A. area "is definitely more than two times the amount of rent that I pay."

Indeed, California has five of the top 10 most expensive rental marketsnationwide, according to industry tracker Zumper.

San Francisco ranks as the nation's most expensive rental market, followed by New York, according to Zumper's top 10 list. San Jose comes in third place, and Los Angeles in sixth place. Oakland and San Diego also made the top 10.

"For a lot of people, renting is the only option they have because it's tough to afford a house here," said Steve Feldman, a Keller Williams real estate agent in the L.A./San Fernando Valley region.

Expensive rents
The median monthly rent for a one-bedroom apartment in the Los Angeles area is $2,249, and in San Francisco it's almost $3,400, according to Zumper. The median rent for a two-bedroom apartment in the Los Angeles area is $3,200 and in San Francisco about $4,500. By comparison, the median rent for a one-bedroom in Las Vegas is $925 and in Phoenix $945, and for a two-bedroom in Las Vegas $1,122 and in Phoenix $1,137.

"High housing costs are a challenge for employers, who need to offer workers enough so they can afford to live here," said Kolko. "Despite this, California is still hiring, and job growth was strong over the past year."

California's $550,990 median price statewide for an existing single-family home compares with the national median price of $247,800, according to the National Association of Realtors and its state association.

"People who have owned their house for quite a while can cash out with quite a nice bit of money in their hands,' said Feldman. "They can go to another state and buy a house for a fraction of what they have here and tuck away a lot of money and retire, work or bring their cost of living and overhead down."



Rising rents causing major affordability issues 3:57 PM ET Fri, 16 Feb 2018 | 01:37


Middle class leaving
Internal Revenue Service data would appear to show that the middle-class and middle-age residents are the ones leaving, according to Joel Kotkin, a presidential fellow in Urban Futures at Chapman University in Orange, California.

"We know the actual net migration out of California has been growing," said Kotkin.

Furthermore, Kotkin believes the outmigration from California may start to rise among higher-income people, given that the GOP's federal tax overhaul will result in certain California taxpayers losing from the state and local tax deduction cap. "They are the ones who will tend to have the high property taxes and rely on writing it off," he said.

California is often criticized as one of the highest-taxed states in the nation.

Last year, Gov. Jerry Brown, a Democrat, signed a 12-cent-per-gallon increase in the state's excise tax on gasoline, bringing the tax to 41.7 cents per gallon, or a 40 percent jump. Drivers in California already pay the highest average for gasoline after Hawaii.


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Don't worry about this temporary inequality. Leftist policies always result in total poverty so sooner or later everyone will be poor and the inequality will be erased.
 
Get rid of people who aren't inclined to vote for you. Bring in masses of foreigners and promise them free stuff, paid for by whitey.

Seems CA politicos don't understand, "running out of other people's money". (Not that they do in other states either.... CA just one of the most or the most egregious offender.)
 
That is simply since Democratic districts tend to be urban areas, and cities tend to hold most of the money via finance and other business. There are some Democratic districts where one family represents 99.9% of the wealth and GDP of the district.

Trying to claim that Democrats do not run local economies in the ground by pointing out that a few very wealthy people live in their urban districts is an exercise in stupidity. Here is todays's hint -- many of those very wealthy people and their businesses are fleeing California. And they are not going to other Democratic shiatholes like Detroit, Baltimore, or D.C.

Look I’m not into calling where people le live shotholes, but the south and Midwest are full of Republican failures of government. The entire state of Kansas is exhibit A of what republican policies can do to perfectly fine economy in a relatively short amount of time.

I am serious when I say you guys need to check your theory against reality.
 
Look I’m not into calling where people le live shotholes, but the south and Midwest are full of Republican failures of government. The entire state of Kansas is exhibit A of what republican policies can do to perfectly fine economy in a relatively short amount of time.

I am serious when I say you guys need to check your theory against reality.

I will admit that the State of Kansas has failed under Republican leadership due to their inability to balance tax cuts and spending policies in recent years. I have criticized them for this. However it should be noted that crime is not spiraling out of control in Kansas, and their economy is growing with new companies moving there.

I expect that you will be hard pressed to find any other examples of in the South and Midwest of "Republican failures of government". Most of these states have top credit ratings and growing economies. You may disagree with their policies on education spending and in other areas... but these are not "failures" -- it is you disagreeing with their policy approach. Paying unionized teachers $100,000 per year may be the standard in the North but it will never be the policy in the South.
 
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Playing chicken with the gods, are you? :D
 
I will admit that the State of Kansas has failed under Republican leadership due to their inability to balance tax cuts and spending policies in recent years. I have criticized them for this. However it should be noted that crime is not spiraling out of control in Kansas, and their economy is growing with new companies moving there.

I expect that you will be hard pressed to find any other examples of in the South and Midwest of "Republican failures of government". Most of these states have top credit ratings and growing economies. You may disagree with their policies on education spending and in other areas... but these are not "failures" -- it is you disagreeing with their policy approach. Paying unionized teachers $100,000 per year may be the standard in the North but it will never be the policy in the South.

I am not hard pressed. Most southern states are “failures” in almost every index. For example, Mississippi is the worst state to live in America, followed by Alabama. Not only is the poverty rate high but life expectancy is low and so is education level in these states.

As far as Kansas not having a crime problem, you’re much safer in NYC than Kansas City.

If your beef is paying teachers $100k a year, that seems like a very small thing and I’m not sure too many teachers actually make $100k but educating people while their young prevents a lot of other problems that drain public resources later in life.

There are no short cuts and magic bullets. Tax cuts don’t make an economy and cutting teachers only makes things worse.
 
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