California now has the worst COVID-19 spread in US

gwb-trading said:
...Most coroners and medical examiners are competent, and so official causes of death are correct more often than not. But even if every case in which someone “with COVID-19” who died from a different cause were misattributed to COVID-19, it still would have only a small effect on the COVID-19 death statistics.

So, if someone tells you that the number of reported COVID-19 deaths is greatly exaggerated, due to misattributions of people who test positive for COVID-19, but who actually died from a different cause, they are wrong. They need to “do the math!”
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My issue are with those that know the math that the overall Covid-19 hospitalizations / ICUs / Deaths are correct but they still post misinformation that align with whatever conspiracy theory that is out there.

Those types of individuals that then try to spread that misinformation on social media are very dangerous and one day I'm sure will actually be a crime and people will be prosecuted for such...

Just as they were in 1918 during the Influenza Pandemic. Yeah, people back then were actually fined and arrested.

Seriously, not a lot of stories about the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic but reading my great grandfather's diary during the 1918 - 1920 Pandemic...

People were arrested when he was in Florida for business (cigar business) towards the end of World War I....a neighbor of his friend whom invited him to partner in business was arrested for "spitting" because it spread the virus. :D
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LacesOut said:
Where? You mean the minor uptick in excess deaths? You should stop making a living because you might get the sniffles. You aren’t essential.
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Well actually I’m surprised you even acknowledged there is excess deaths. That’s something. We are actually tracking month to month, more total deaths than from the Spanish flu.
 
wrbtrader said:
Actually, the Spanish Flu of 2018 proved that widespread disease can also impact War decisions of a President and any other White House administration decisions.

https://www.history.com/news/woodrow-wilson-1918-pandemic-world-war-i

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A few more articles reflecting on the 1918 Flu epidemic...

Christmas 1918: How Americans celebrated holidays during last pandemic
https://nypost.com/2020/12/24/christmas-1918-how-americans-celebrated-holidays-during-last-pandemic/

For churchgoers during the Covid-19 pandemic, a deadly lesson from the 1918 flu
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/03/health/churches-covid-1918-lesson-wellness/index.html

And yes, they had the equivalent of people hyping bleach and hydroxychloroquine back then also...
A Century After Phony Flu Ads, Companies Hype Dubious COVID Cures
https://news.yahoo.com/century-phony-flu-ads-companies-131726601.html
 
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UsualName said:
I had no idea Wilson caught Spanish flu! Interesting stuff. Trump should have used that when he caught Covid.
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Another fact or strong belief about the virus infected President Wilson during the peace treaty with Germany...

He uncharacteristically made some awkward (as stated in my grandfather's diary...he uses the phrase "strange") decisions in Treaty of Versailles, the Paris Peace Conference ... the treaty laid the psychological and economic groundwork imposed heavy debt payments from Germany and what many Germans today believe had humiliated Germany in which resulted then in the rise of the Nazism...

All of this occurring during the infamous Spanish Flu.

Simply, in some ways, the Spanish Flu impacted the decisions of President Wilson in what he wanted in the Treaty of Versailles which ultimately was a major factor in the start of World War II. In some ways, WW II was payback / revenge that little man Hitler could not get over about what happen in WW I.

Makes me wonder what the little man President Trump (once infected / hospitalized with Covid-19) will do after a humiliating defeat in the U.S. Elections...

Maybe encourage his supporters via his rhetoric to start a Civil War but not like the first Civil War. Different...bombings, government protests and attacks on individual government officials that he believes didn't help to keep him in office ???

Maybe put up so many roadblocks by Trump himself for a peaceful transition to Biden / Harris administration that it intentionally makes America weak to outside threats and inside threats...latter such as home grown terrorists ???

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Terms of the Treaty of Versailles

The Treaty of Versailles established a blueprint for the postwar world. One of the most controversial terms of the treaty was the War Guilt clause, which explicitly and directly blamed Germany for the outbreak of hostilities. The treaty forced Germany to disarm, to make territorial concessions, and to pay reparations to the Allied powers in the staggering amount of $5 billion.

Although US President Woodrow Wilson was opposed to such harsh terms, he was outmaneuvered by French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau. France was the only Allied power to share a border with Germany, and therefore suffered the bulk of the devastation and casualties from the German war machine. The French aimed to weaken Germany to the greatest extent possible.

May 7, 1919

Perhaps the most humiliating portion of the treaty for defeated Germany was Article 231, commonly known as the "War Guilt Clause," which forced the German nation to accept complete responsibility for initiating World War I. Germany was required to make enormous reparation payments.

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