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Good post from tomdavis. Businesses and people still free to leave apparently. No exit tax yet?





http://thebusinessrelocationcoach.blogspot.com/2010/05/updated-again-californias-hostile.html

May 6, 2010
Updated Again:
California's Hostile Business Climate --
129 'Business Disinvestment' Events

Apparently, No state agency keeps track of enterprises that move out of California...

Below is a roundup of activity that I've been able to find since I started this blog in July, 2009...


... one state economic development official admitted that in 2007 (before the economic meltdown) the state lost "only" 1,000 businesses... state lost 25 percent of its total manufacturing employment between 1990 and 2007.
 
Hmmmm...so it would be okay if she was going for a degree that would help her make more money than a poly sci degree?

So welfare is okay, when it fits your economic model of what type of education to get?

Isn't that still being supportive of a nanny state...just a stricter nanny that tells a person what to study?



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Needs? She's working on a degree in political and social science.
WTF is she going to do with that in this economy?


How much will it reduce the budget? How many are on the program?

If there are only 1000 it would save $12 million a year
10,000 would save $120 million a year.
50,000 would save $600 million a year.

You're crying like a little girl, in typical bleeding heart liberal fashion, as if she's the only one.


EDIT: I looked it up; 1.4 million are enrolled in CalWorks.
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Quote from hermit:

600 million for 50,000 people still sounds better than 2 Billion for those who only pay 10% of the revenues. Maybe you should go back to readingthe bible instead of thumping it only when it suits you.
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With 1.4 million enrolled it's likely much more than $600 million.

WTF does the bible have to do with this?

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Hmmmm...so it would be okay if she was going for a degree that would help her make more money than a poly sci degree?

So welfare is okay, when it fits your economic model of what type of education to get?

Isn't that still being supportive of a nanny state...just a stricter nanny that tells a person what to study?
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NO
NO
and NO.

That's just a bunch of stupid presumptive BS YOU dreamed up hoping to get me to argue with you.
Maybe next time ZZZzzzzzzz.......
 
So are you indicating that you oppose any tax money for education?

Quote from Lucrum:

With 1.4 million enrolled it's likely much more than $600 million.

WTF does the bible have to do with this?


NO
NO
and NO.

That's just a bunch of stupid presumptive BS YOU dreamed up hoping to get me to argue with you.
Maybe next time ZZZzzzzzzz.......
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The sad thing is, the California legislature actually considered an "exit tax" until they were told that it was in violation of the federal constitution and completely unenforceable.



Quote from FightTheFuture:

Good post from tomdavis. Businesses and people still free to leave apparently. No exit tax yet?





http://thebusinessrelocationcoach.blogspot.com/2010/05/updated-again-californias-hostile.html

May 6, 2010
Updated Again:
California's Hostile Business Climate --
129 'Business Disinvestment' Events

Apparently, No state agency keeps track of enterprises that move out of California...

Below is a roundup of activity that I've been able to find since I started this blog in July, 2009...


... one state economic development official admitted that in 2007 (before the economic meltdown) the state lost "only" 1,000 businesses... state lost 25 percent of its total manufacturing employment between 1990 and 2007.
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So welfare is okay, when it fits your economic model of what type of education to get?
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Hell yes, if I am going to pay taxes to help someone out, they had better not be wasting time and money getting a poly sci degree.

I have never heard anyone on this board, including myself, defend corporate welfare. I especially despise agriculture subsidies. However a tax cut to a producer is NOT welfare. Welfare is handing money to people who produce nothing or produce far less than they consume.

The levels of social spending are already staggering and economically choking, but people will still defend someone's 'right' to have 4 kids they cannot support and get a poly sci degree on the government teat. Amazing, simply amazing.
 
So it appears it is not a nanny state that bothers you, but the way in which the nanny controls what the welfare recipients do is the issue...

Quote from Mav88:

Hell yes, if I am going to pay taxes to help someone out, they had better not be wasting time and money getting a poly sci degree.

I have never heard anyone on this board, including myself, defend corporate welfare. I especially despise agriculture subsidies. However a tax cut to a producer is NOT welfare. Welfare is handing money to people who produce nothing or produce far less than they consume.

The levels of social spending are already staggering and economically choking, but people will still defend someone's 'right' to have 4 kids they cannot support and get a poly sci degree on the government teat. Amazing, simply amazing.
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There is a place for fiscally disciplined socialism, I mentioned auto insurance as an example. It involves all people being responsible, those who are not are cut off. That's not a nanny state.
 
I don't disagree with that concept.

However, what do you do with those who are irresponsible?

You mentioned taking their children away at one point...I think.

Really?

So you do favor a nanny state to take care of the children...

For how long? How to take care of them? Put them in foster homes?

Seriously, I understand your frustration when people abuse the system (though I am not sure that is the truth in this case) but what is your realistic solution that will really create a permanent change?



Quote from Mav88:

There is a place for fiscally disciplined socialism, I mentioned auto insurance as an example. It involves all people being responsible, those who are not are cut off. That's not a nanny state.
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Quote from hermit:

How is helping out the needy being a socialist?

"If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'" Matthew 19:21
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That was spoken to a really wealthy guy, not a working guy trying to support a family like a lot of taxpayers that foot the bill for bullshit artists like you...
 
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