California dreamin'

Our state is running a surplus...........we will do just fine without anyone's help. sorry bushite, i feel your pain. I have some good friends that moved from San Diego and have never looked back.

Now take your thumb out of your ass and go away.
 
I hate soshulizm and my 1977 cabover Minnie Winnie is not a trailer. It makes a fine home for me and Ma and the kids and the dogs......now that we had the doors widened so we can git thru. We are both gonna git that lap dance surgery after we git Obama care....then we kin start goin to Golden Corral agin........bastards told us not to come back. And we don't need no welfare.....our disability checks and the kid's checks from the gov't are plenty. Stosh
 
Quote from Stosh:

You seem to stress an inability to raise taxes as a problem.....that is not the problem, spending is the problem.

California gets plenty of revenue...

You are wrong.
 
Quote from TGregg:

Not quite. The real message is:

It's too liberal to fail. You can bet if California were a hotbed of conservatism, it'd be left to it's own devices by DC.

And we already saw that happen when Bush and his buddies at FERC ( namely appointee Pat Wood, III ) sat idly by and did nothing while Enron "gamed" and manipulated California's power grid during a recession.

Imagine that.

The President of the United States of America sitting around on his ass at the Crawford Ranch allowing the 6th largest economy in the world to "twist in the wind" while Enron "gamed" the power grid.

The Bush Administration can give GM and Chrysler a $13.4 BILLION dollar "hand-out" of taxpayer money last December, but let the nation's 6th largest Economy be held hostage to a power trading company/hedge-fund.

Yet another reason why George Bush will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents in modern U.S. history.
 
Quote from Eight:

California's economy is comparable to EU nations in GDP, it's too big to fail... until the bailout money runs out...

voters vote themselves largess from government but vote against tax increases.. there is a disconnect in their thinking there.

Correct.

Everyone wants goods and services, parks and prisons, schools and recreation facilities . . . but no one wants to repeal Prop. 13 or pay for anything with an increase in taxes.

It's been just like the last 8 years of the U.S. under George Bush. Spend, spend, spend; double the national debt; don't veto a thing; pay for wars without accounting for the expense in the budget; and act like you are in support of a strong dollar when in effect, you embraced the 50% drop in your currency even though you KNEW that such a drop would fuel energy and commodity price inflation and kill the consumer.

Just lovely.
 
Quote from fkbsuhites:

Good post. Ocean front property in Cali are making new highs, so it's not bad everywhere.

You also make another valid observation. The only ones whining about California are trailer monkey trash living in some southern sh*t hole. For some unknown reason, these illiterate trailer monkeys think they're all re-known economists.

I'm a 4th generation Californian.
A graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, and someone that has spent 14 years of my life back East in Manhattan and Fairfield County, CT.

I'll never go back.
I'll never leave this view again and weather again!

http://scienceview.berkeley.edu/view/

:)
 
Quote from Landis82:

Correct.

Everyone wants goods and services, parks and prisons, schools and recreation facilities . . . but no one wants to repeal Prop. 13 or pay for anything with an increase in taxes.

It's been just like the last 8 years of the U.S. under George Bush. Spend, spend, spend; double the national debt; don't veto a thing; pay for wars without accounting for the expense in the budget; and act like you are in support of a strong dollar when in effect, you embraced the 50% drop in your currency even though you KNEW that such a drop would fuel energy and commodity price inflation and kill the consumer.

Just lovely.



Agreed. But will be doing the same thing for at least another 4 years, politicians are all the same.
 
Quote from Landis82:

Correct.
Everyone wants goods and services, parks and prisons, schools and recreation facilities . . . but no one wants to repeal Prop. 13 or pay for anything with an increase in taxes.

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I think the Kali rate is now 11% or more? Comparatively, Kali is at or near the top.

I have said for many years, and been wrong, that Prop 13 will be partially repealed starting with investment properties. Tenants on "NNN" leases benefit along with the Lessor, but basically the property owners raise rents to market & benefit from the limited tax increases.

Your argument that overall Californians aren't taxed enough is silly - look at the attached PDF. ... BTW, the prison guards make unreal salaries with overtime & retire with, I believe, 90% pay, just like firemen, plus other bennies. Yet, most calls involving firemen are mainly for EMTs... and sorry prison guards, that's basically unskilled labor. IF you were here then - they, the guards, got a big fat payoff from Gray Davis. Also, I read once that 25% of the CA prisoners are illegal aliens... Do you really want to pay for that? Really?

I'm leaving Kali for Reno or WA.

here is another estimate - 11% illegals in prisons..

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said in a letter to Washington lawmakers last week that boosting the funding the state receives under the program was his top priority for federal criminal justice funding.

The state -- with about 19,000 illegal immigrants in prisons, or about 11 percent of the prison population -- is projected to receive about 111 million dollars of its 970-million-dollar expected cost this year for imprisoning illegal immigrants, according to the paper.
 

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Stosh wrote""We are both gonna git that lap dance surgery after we git Obama care....then we kin start goin to Golden Corral agin........bastards told us not to come back.""
That's truly funny.:D
 
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