Calendar Spreads

VIX questions here:

Are there any members that have been trading the VIX for several months to see what the VIX closing price is vs the VRO? How much of a spread is there between the two on average? Considering that VIX (JUL Exp) was at 17.74 and VRO was 17.01.

I'm finding it difficult to find historical settlement values, so in others opinions how close would you allow the VIX to get to your short option before closing the position?

Thanks
 
Quote from Arb Under Par:

Pipepuller,

Where did you find the Jul VRO value? I can't find any of the settlement values from the cboe website.

You would think that they would be included here: http://www.cboe.com/data/Settlement.aspx but they are not.

Thanks!
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rallymode provided this:

http://cboe.com/DelayedQuote/Simple...aspx?ticker=vro

or you can go to:

http://www.888options.com/quotes/default.jsp


As you can see the info isn't exactly the most easily accessible. If you can find any previous months VRO quote that would be impressive!
 
Thanks guys.

I emailed the cboe, but if anyone has the past few vro values, please share.

If I hear anything back from them, I will post any info here.
 
Quote from Arb Under Par:

I think that would work for the quarterly sets, as the futs and index converge, but not sure about the other months.

Good find, though!
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VIX futures have 2 front month contracts plus the quarterly contracts so the values i posted are the values the VIX futures settled to each month. Dividing by 10 will get you the value that VIX options settled to each month.
 
You are correct with the futs settlements, Rally!

SET $VIX Opening Prior Day Close
JULY: 17.01 17.62 17.74
JUNE: 17.29 16.67 16.69
MAY: 14.03 13.83 13.35
APRIL: 11.94 11.52 11.40
MARCH: 11.15 11.71 11.62\



Not sure that this shows much of anything, but you can see where the SET was compared to the opening and prior days close on the cash.

The SET is calculated accordingly:

"Settlement of Option Exercise:
The exercise-settlement value for VIX options (Ticker: VRO) shall be a Special Opening Quotation (SOQ) of VIX calculated from the sequence of opening prices of the options used to calculate the index on the settlement date. The opening price for any series in which there is no trade shall be the average of that option's bid price and ask price as determined at the opening of trading. Exercise will result in delivery of cash on the business day following expiration. The exercise-settlement amount is equal to the difference between the exercise-settlement value and the exercise price of the option, multiplied by $100."
 
Thanks for the reply Rally, I really didn't know where to look and was getting a bit frustrated.

At least this will give me an idea of how close VIX can get to my short before I consider closing/rolling it.
 
Are any of you using VIX options to decrease vega on your calendars? I haven't really looked at them too much given how little trading history they have.

Here's a current dual calendar that I opened recently. It's essentially a vega play, with (at current volty) about 90% chance at Sept expiration of BE or better. I would welcome any flaming/comments:

VAS SEPT/OCT 22.5 Put Cal
VAS SEPT/OCT 30 Call Cal
 
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