Calendar Spreads

My first calendar was with TIVO which was horizontal. I closed out for a small loss. Which do any of you find more successful with, diagonal or horizontal. It seems to me calendars are similar to covered calls but with less $ at risk. Am I wrong about this?

T
 
Quote from trkarl:

My first calendar was with TIVO which was horizontal. I closed out for a small loss. Which do any of you find more successful with, diagonal or horizontal. It seems to me calendars are similar to covered calls but with less $ at risk. Am I wrong about this?

T

Hey T...hummm someone else with nothing else to do on a Sat nite:( :p I agree calendars feel a lot like a CC...as to which is more successful a diagonal or horizontal...don't really know. I put on a bunch of cal's in Mar that have yet to play themselves out. Two I have gone from horizontal to diagonal..one I'm thinking about not selling a May put on (I let the apr expire). I would also be interested in ppl's experiences with horizontal vs diagonal.

My only criticism of TIVO is that I don't think calendars work as well on lower priced stocks.
 
Quote from nlslax:

Hi Nick,
I bracketed AMD last week when it was around $34. If the calls remain ITM I plan to close the spread by Tues or Wed.

.AKDDG AMD APR 35 Call $1.30
.AKDEG AMD MAY 35 Call $2.00

.AKDPZ AMD APR 32.5 Put $0.80
.AKDQZ AMD MAY 32.5 Put $1.40

The current mid on your 35 put spread is .50, with the short month covering ~70% of the long month. Looks great, much better entry than mine. I think I might piggy back on your trade.

how did you end up with your apr exp? did you close both the call and put side?
 
Quote from DonnaV:

how did you end up with your apr exp? did you close both the call and put side?

Hi Donna,
The MAY 35 Calls are left at .40, will most likely sell them Monday.
I closed the Put spread at a $40 loss including commish.

Had 14 spreads going into exp. Worked most of today but will tally up in a few days.

Overall lost just a little $, but I believe the tuition was worth the expense.
 
Quote from nlslax:

Hi Donna,
The MAY 35 Calls are left at .40, will most likely sell them Monday.
I closed the Put spread at a $40 loss including commish.

Had 14 spreads going into exp. Worked most of today but will tally up in a few days.

Overall lost just a little $, but I believe the tuition was worth the expense.

I agree its a very interesting trade, I've learned a lot as well. One thing I did that is paying off. After I put on the 37.5 Jul/Mar cal (on Feb 27)of course AMD crashed down but I added a 32.5 Jul/Apr cal(on Mar31) so now I'm at least profitable over-all. I may not make money on the 1st one (probably break-even) will will make money on the 32.5 ..I think:)

What I'm learning is the high vol stocks (over 30) are best for shorter term or even the RC's...however if vol is less than 20 you often can't get real payback. Ideally you find a nice stock with 20-30 vols...pick a direction and are right but not tooo right about the direction:p
 
Quote from DonnaV:

I agree its a very interesting trade, I've learned a lot as well. One thing I did that is paying off. After I put on the 37.5 Jul/Mar cal (on Feb 27)of course AMD crashed down but I added a 32.5 Jul/Apr cal(on Mar31) so now I'm at least profitable over-all. I may not make money on the 1st one (probably break-even) will will make money on the 32.5 ..I think:)

What I'm learning is the high vol stocks (over 30) are best for shorter term or even the RC's...however if vol is less than 20 you often can't get real payback. Ideally you find a nice stock with 20-30 vols...pick a direction and are right but not tooo right about the direction:p

Was the 32.5 a Put or Call cal?
RC's?

You're right about being "too right" about direction. That happened to me a couple of times.

I'm starting to experiment with Cals on indexes. So far I have had more success writing them on SPX than I have had on SPY or Q's. The ETF's lose vol quickly. Just beginning to scratch the surface and looking for consistancy.
 
Quote from nlslax:

Was the 32.5 a Put or Call cal?
RC's?

You're right about being "too right" about direction. That happened to me a couple of times.

I'm starting to experiment with Cals on indexes. So far I have had more success writing them on SPX than I have had on SPY or Q's. The ETF's lose vol quickly. Just beginning to scratch the surface and looking for consistancy.

It was PUT...Q for you how far out are you doing the SPX 2 months or more? PUTS/Calls? ATM OTM?tia
 
Quote from DonnaV:

It was PUT...Q for you how far out are you doing the SPX 2 months or more? PUTS/Calls? ATM OTM?tia

Bot the SPX 1310C cal <30 days out at 8.80 net and sold the spread when it was ITM for 12.20 net :mad:

Was an expensive debit, but percentage wise it worked out. Shoulda/coulda held it longer.
 
Quote from nlslax:

Bot the SPX 1310C cal <30 days out at 8.80 net and sold the spread when it was ITM for 12.20 net :mad:

Was an expensive debit, but percentage wise it worked out. Shoulda/coulda held it longer.

I assume your talking Apr/May cal? very nice trade...no s/c/w...it easily could have gone the other way...great trade:D
 
Hi Guys!

As I could see,most of you trade Calender Spreads on Stocks.
Does anyone have any experience with trading them on some major stock indices? (S&P,nasdaq)
Thx
 
Back
Top