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Bye Bye Miss American Pie!
- Thread starter EMRGLOBAL
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Quote from xiaodre:
Wow. An amazing turnaround from a ridiculous rant that several people said was a good, or better, or best post (and mokwit even reading into it his own racist tendencies) to actual common sense, like, "every nation has economic cycles."
Why the switch? Because it is a switch, bub.
And Alex, thanks for pointing out that the Chinese were inventive geniuses. I guess I should point out that they still are pretty good to excellent in this field of human endeavor?
And I guess I should ask among those countries that had colonies in China, how many of them still do?
DISCLOSURE: Why am I interested in this thread? Sick of all the wrong information (not the opinions, just the stupid shit) in the China bashing threads maybe, and so here I am again, feeding the fucking trolls? Could be...I'll go over it with my therapist.
The first post was in response to the OP's "American's become closer to that "Third World" country called Mexico." I think what you were trying to say is that I was supposed to smile and not say anything in response to that.
The post was sarcasm, irony, exaggeration and humor mixed with truth. Read into it whatever your expectations are.
Hardly a switch nor a turnaround. It sounded like you needed a simple summary as I was afraid that you were loaded up 100% on China ADRs, etc. and didn't want to hear otherwise. Go ahead, I should not care, it sounds like a permabuy.
Why the sarcasm?
I don't like it when my country is getting a bad deal from starting this globalization for the benefit of other countries without, at the very least, the right to say anything negative.
The county that I live in has a population of 55k and has lost 6000+ jobs over a year ago. The county's largest employer and its suppliers moved to China. There is absolutely no opportunity here. 6000 families with no sustainable income. Where are they supposed to move to? How could they move with mortgage payments on houses that no one would ever buy as no one from anywhere would move here? We've got nothing because we gave it all away.
What do they get in return for losing their livelihood? Unfair trade, tires that blow out and kill, toxic food, toxic toys, tainted prescription drugs that sicken and injure, air pollution on the formerly cleaned up West Coast coming from China, etc.
This is the harsh reality that we must live here, and do you believe that no one must say anything negative about China? We have a hard life here with people burning their furniture for heat this winter. Maybe they will just burn their worthless houses down. How's it going for you?
My fellow globalizationers, we are being mistreated, misrepresented and without a voice. I simply ask you, are we supposed to accept all that has been taken from us and not say a word? Are we not to be offended by dangerous imported products? Are we supposed to have smiles on our faces and keep our mouths shut as we allow ourselves to get the crap beat unfairly out of us?
Quote from FightTheFuture:
The county that I live in has a population of 55k and has lost 6000+ jobs over a year ago. The county's largest employer and its suppliers moved to China. There is absolutely no opportunity here. 6000 families with no sustainable income. Where are they supposed to move to? How could they move with mortgage payments on houses that no one would ever buy as no one from anywhere would move here? We've got nothing because we gave it all away.
Which county are you talking about FTF.
regards
f9
You're quite the superstar in San Antonino.
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Send me some tortillas damn you!!!
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Send me some tortillas damn you!!!
Quote from EMRGLOBAL:
"Britain will feel the full power of the new superpower's confidence. This month, for the first time, China's state-controlled banks will begin spending some of its $1.33trn (£670bn) in foreign currency reserves on London's financial markets. Beijing has ruled that Britain should become only the second destination after Hong Kong to be allowed to receive investors' money via so-called "sovereign funds" â the huge state-controlled surpluses built up by cash-rich economies from Qatar to South Korea. Throw in the biggest round of Chinese art exhibitions ever to tour these islands and the oriental bias to 2008 becomes even more pronounced."
As 2008 is upon the world, America is waking up to the understanding that she is losing her "financial Superpower faster than superman losing his strength with Kriptonite.
The Sheep, the pundits the idiots all call for the US Market to rally after a January 08 correction. With Warren Buffet saving banks, along side Dubai, do we really wonder about Free Markets?
The "Powers" that be have saved the US from a massive meltdown, so far. However, the rest of the world runs from the implosion of the dollar while American's become closer to that "Third World" country called Mexico.
Go ahead america, take the blue pill and wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want.....
Why communism?Quote from xiaodre:
You're thinking is revolutionary!
To think, I had read history books that put China as the origin of many of the most useful inventions mankind has ever come up with...
oh, and as one of the (well, so I was taught! But you cannot find good teachers nowadays) oldest continuous civilizations, the one that came up with paper money (ahem) and decimal mathamatics (ahem)...
Listen, you gotta write a book to get this new shit out! This is new shit, and it must be brought to light, man!
At least an ebook! At least think about it!
Quote from FightTheFuture:
Bye bye baby China, you corrupt one party system, lack of oversight, mismanged house of cards.
You are just a baby, a child. You will not be able to manage a burst bubble. No self-discipline has been learned, it has all been too easy, like a trader first starting out in late 1999. It literally has all been given to you at the expense of those countries that had to work for it. You did not earn it, you did not work for it. You got a huge head start and bypassed the learning curve.
You have been looking like a baby genius, a prodigy trader. Gonna give back all your profits one day, gonna pay for easy, careless trading. You are gonna ride it all the way down 'cause you think you are and have been called a genius and you will hope it turns around. You don't have a plan 'cause you've never seen it fall before. Hoping it turns back up won't do you no good.
I've seen your system and people at work, it's blatantly obvious that you don't have what it takes in the face of adversity. You have developed many weaknesses, and few strengths. It has been too easy.
The US and other countries will end up bailing out the child. How much will it cost us this time?
So many mistakes I dont even know where to begin. but... "the US and other countries" and "bail out" , ..... CHINA??!! are you mental with your projections? What you need to ask yourself is ... what is it that the chinese are doing right that we are just not getting? It is people like you who make this world a very difficult place in which to live and trade. You think the world owes you everything because you feel you were born from some royal right when in reality you are just trailer trash that cant speak english straight.
"You are just a baby, a child. You will not be able to manage a burst bubble. No self-discipline has been learned, it has all been too easy, like a trader first starting out in late 1999. It literally has all been given to you at the expense of those countries that had to work for it. You did not earn it, you did not work for it. You got a huge head start and bypassed the learning curve. "
They have been able to manage alot so far and it is our bubble about to burst and burst big that they should be most worried about. When you have people from the US visiting your country for 50-80 years shoving worthless merchandise, fiat currency, and drugs in your face, the balance must be kept somehow. Free markets are free markets you doof, meaning they, none of them, should ever be bailed out. Things will work themselves out on their own when prices for real goods come back to normal levels. Cutting interest rates, and liquidity injections do nothing and only make things worse off then they should be. By doing this you only rob your own homeland(its people) for the benefit of a few offshore wealthy corporations(a few men) who benefit from buying your cherished and precious companies for nickels on the dollar. Their dollar. You yourself make US dollars probably (speculation), and you could care less about hedging yourself because "big government" will always be there to bail you out. This is communism not capitalism. That welfare attitude wont get you or anyone anywhere. If property prices really collapsed to a quarter of what they are currently this would provide a tremendous opportunity for the homeland and its people to make fortune investing in its property at bargain prices. This now allows for a major redistribution of wealth, naturally, without welfare or social security, or bernanke and company. bring on the recession, its a new awakening. it is a rebirth.
I can't help thinking that China will implode, as well. Superfast growth has its drawbacks. Yes, the Japanese went through it. They are very restrained, and well educated, and ofcourse, real estate can't go down!
Wealth continues to move west. Cheap labour has made China what it is. As they prosper, other countries will step up to the plate...Africa? If only we had a measure of political stability.
Wealth continues to move west. Cheap labour has made China what it is. As they prosper, other countries will step up to the plate...Africa? If only we had a measure of political stability.