But what about copper ?

Quote from Handle123:

I been short since July 2011, lots of rollovers, took profit on half, finally added on trendline bounce in Feb 2013 and again took profit on half. I trade off the monthly/weekly charts for my signals. All my stops are at adjusted breakeven and I have nada that allows me to get out of these trades or move my stops.

All my backtesting through the decades have always came back to same ideals, I have to be numb to my monthly account balances in order the wait for the big haul on a few markets each year. Except for a money target on half, have no idea where it is going, I never read any news, don't look at it till the weekend even though it is computerized. I will from time to time see if Jim Rogers has offered any news brief. This is a real boring way to trade, but....

thanks handle... i was just starting to look at the yield curve/ term structure in HG... i thought of something i had read a long time ago about green lumber..


"The Green Lumbar Problem, outlined in Nassim Taleb’s upcoming book Antifragile, is essentially misunderstanding which facts are relevant vs those which are not in regards decision making under uncertainty.

From Nassim:

“In one of the rare noncharlatanic books in finance, descriptively called What I Learned Losing A Million Dollars, the protagonist makes a big discovery. He remarks that a fellow called Joe Siegel, the most active trader in a commodity called “green lumber” actually thought that it was lumber painted green (rather than freshly cut lumber, called green because it had not been dried). And he made a living, even a fortune trading the stuff! Meanwhile the narrator was into theories of what caused the price of commodities to move and went bust.

The fact is that predicting the orderflow in lumber and the price dynamics narrative had little to do with these details —not the same ting. Floor traders are selected in the most nonnarrative manner, just by evolution in the sense that nice arguments don’t make much difference.”"
 
London copper lower from 2-week highs

By Thomson Reuters - Wed 10 Apr 2013 07:57:17 CT

London copper drifted lower from near two-week highs hit in the previous session, as traders took profits on short-covering gains, while improving trade data from top consumer China underpinned expectations of metals demand.
 
Quote from Handle123:

This is a real boring way to trade, but....
Who said making money is boring ?
I like your technique of reducing your position size after each winning move. What are we talking here - 5 , 10 contracts or more ?
 
Morning Copper Market Report

Thu 11 Apr 2013 07:18:29 CT

The copper market has been under pressure this morning, and has now given back a sizable portion of this week's sharp rally. Some traders feel that positive vibes from recent Chinese economic data appear to be fading, as copper is finding little traction from the strength found in global equity markets this morning. Yesterday's FOMC meeting minutes are felt to be a source of pressure for the copper market, as they may indicate a greater chance that the Fed's recent QE measures may be wound down sooner than expected.

LME copper stocks continue to grind their way higher and reached another 9 1/2-year high, which many in the market feel will reinforce ideas of sluggish global demand levels. LME Copper Stocks were at 590,175 tons, up 2,250 tons and have increased in 38 of the past 39 sessions. A Korean trade association has cut their forecast for copper demand in that nation during 2013 due to their sluggish economic conditions.
 
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Morning Copper Market Report

Thu 11 Apr 2013 07:18:29 CT

LME copper stocks continue to grind their way higher and reached another 9 1/2-year high, which many in the market feel will reinforce ideas of sluggish global demand levels. LME Copper Stocks were at 590,175 tons, up 2,250 tons and have increased in 38 of the past 39 sessions.
Can someone please tell me why copper is not absolutely collapsing and/or Who is holding this market up ?
 
Quote from syswizard:

Can someone please tell me why copper is not absolutely collapsing and/or Who is holding this market up ?

because you want it to go down.. simple haha
 
Quote from cdcaveman:

because you want it to go down.. simple haha
I know, I know...markets can be so PERVERSE.
But we'll see the day of reckoning soon I believe.
 
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