But do they pass out water?!

So if your employees are not vaccinated then do you think your customers will want to deal with you or select another vendor.

We don't have customer facing like that. And even if we did, our customers can get vaccinated if they wish. If they do not, that isn't our issue.

If you don’t require your employees to get vaccinated and one of your employees gets COVID — or in a worst case scenario — is hospitalized and dies, what do you think your legal liability will be?
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The exact same it would be if they got AIDS and died. Or Cancer. Or anything else. And they can get a vaccine if they wish as well to be protected, right?

Seeing that the probability of someone dying from COVID is several thousand times more likely than someone dying from the vaccine — I expect your legal liability is much higher from not having employees vaccinated.

There's no legal liability at all from not having employees vaccinated. We've even confirmed this with outside counsel. You really don't know what you're talking about here. Stick to insurance.
 
They'll deal with me. Most folks are way over this government made crisis.
People who have been vaccinated or just don't touch their face will be fine. Anyone who is symptomatic, just stay home. Everything is way past needing to get back to normal. We've been in herd immunity since Dec 20, 2020.
 
At our board meeting, the discussion on reopening was whether we should require vaccines for all employees in order for them to work here. I listened to the very vocal arguments as to why this was a good idea, and then quietly asked: "So if we require employees to get vaccinations, and someone follows the requirement, but has a severe reaction to the vaccine - or, in a worst case scenario - dies, what does legal think our liability would be?"

We won't be requiring vaccinations.
If they croak the least you can do is make them employee of the month. That should satisfy all legal requirements and liabilities.
 
If they croak the least you can do is make them employee of the month. That should satisfy all legal requirements and liabilities.

Just imagine.... you can have many winners every month among the vaccinated.

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We don't have customer facing like that. And even if we did, our customers can get vaccinated if they wish. If they do not, that isn't our issue.


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The exact same it would be if they got AIDS and died. Or Cancer. Or anything else. And they can get a vaccine if they wish as well to be protected, right?



There's no legal liability at all from not having employees vaccinated. We've even confirmed this with outside counsel. You really don't know what you're talking about here. Stick to insurance.

Your company is out of sync with the rest of mainstream corporate America which will require employees to be vaccinated. Top-performing people don't want to work for companies where they will be exposed to anti-vaxxer plague rats everyday -- they will take their skills to companies that have rational policies to protect their health.

Most U.S. companies will require proof of Covid vaccination from employees, survey finds
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/29/mos...-covid-vaccination-from-employees-survey.html
  • A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination, according to an ASU/Rockefeller Foundation survey.
  • Overall, 44% will require all employees to get vaccinated, 31% will just encourage vaccinations and 14% will require some employees to get vaccinated.
More than 60% of companies in the U.S. will require proof of vaccination from their employees, according to a new survey conducted by Arizona State University with support from the Rockefeller Foundation.

A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination, according to the survey. Overall, 44% will require all employees to get vaccinated, 31% will just encourage vaccinations and 14% will require some employees to get vaccinated.

When it comes to consequences for failing to comply with company vaccination policy, 42% of businesses said the employee will not be allowed to return to the physical work environment, and 35% said disciplinary actions are on the table, up to and including possible termination.

The survey, released Thursday, represents the responses of 957 facilities across 24 industry sectors in the U.S. Most of the respondents were businesses with 250 or more employees.

Testing still remains critical to employers with 70% of respondents currently conducting Covid tests that are mostly mandatory.

In terms of employee well-being, the corporate respondents said burnout increased 54% and mental health concerns overall increased 59%. However, morale and productivity also both when up by nearly 50%.

Looking forward, 66% of employers are planning to allow employees to work from home full-time through 2021, and 73% intend to offer flexible work arrangements when the pandemic is over. However, 73% of businesses want employees to work from the office at least 20 hours a week.

“This is not just a bubble that goes back to ‘normal’, there will be some positive flexibility after the pandemic ends and we go back to in-person work,” said Mara G. Aspinall, a professor at Arizona State University’s College of Health Solutions and one of the authors of the survey.

Employees are mainly concerned about their personal health, risk of infection and safety of the workplace, according to the survey. Thirty-eight percent of employees want to return eventually but not immediately and about one quarter said they are reluctant to return at all, according to the businesses that responded to the survey.

“The pandemic has changed the traditional office environment in many ways, possibly forever, yet a majority of employers are indicating they see real value in employees continuing to interact face-to-face,” Nathaniel L. Wade, a co-author of the study who is also affiliated with ASU’s College of Health Solutions. “We really wanted to make sure we’re giving public information to help people make good decisions.”

Most employees, about 51%, would prefer to wait until the government or health agencies allow them to return to work, and about 47% said they would return to in-person work when the entire workforce is vaccinated.

“Employers have been relatively quiet in the pandemic, we’re now entering the next phase where employers are creating their own policies so that employees can go safely and sustainably back to the workplace,” Aspinall said. “People want to get back to normal, but they want to do it in a safe way.”
 
Your company is out of sync with the rest of mainstream corporate America which will require employees to be vaccinated. Top-performing people don't want to work for companies where they will be exposed to anti-vaxxer plague rats everyday -- they will take their skills to companies that have rational policies to protect their health.
If a person is vaccinated, then it shouldn't matter to them if others aren't.
 
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