Bush says immigration bill will survive

Sorry, won't fly.

What lobby group will pay to get such legislation as you have described sponsored and passed?

See, what needs to happen is a group that thinks the way you have outlined needs to form a lobby group as powerful as the NRA...

Then things will get done.

Same with Paul supporters, it is all about how much money you have to lobby legislators and voters...that is the American way.

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What makes me crazy is when the supporters justify it on the basis that "we have to do something" and "the system is broken." No shit. and how will dumping 12 million applications for Z visas on it make it function better? The immigration bureaucracy is so overburdened now they can't even renew passports in a timely fashion.

This is not rocket science. Step 1. Build a fence and put ever how many people are needed on the border to close it. Congress didn't have a problem with hiring 5 million morons to hassle us at airports after 9/11. Is this less important?

Step 2. Set up a computerized system that allows employers to cross check job applicants with a database to ensure they are legal immigrants and have valid SS numbers. Congress didn't mind imposing such a system on firearms dealers. Credit card companies somehow are able to do pretty much the same thing. Why can't the government?

Step 3. Prosecute any employer found to have illegals on their payroll.

Step 4. Deny welfare benefits to illegals. Enact legislation to end the practice of birth citizenship for illegals.

Step 5. When all the above have been put into place, set up a system for temporary workers, who will be sponsored by employers, who will be subject to fines if their guest workers overstay.
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i think the traditional republicans should send a message to the democrats

'if you want to impeach him, he's all yours'
 
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Same with Paul supporters, it is all about how much money you have to lobby legislators and voters...that is the American way.
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wrong... even the NYT acknowledged that grass root efforts brought down the scamnesty bill. i called my senators, did you? i have free long distance.... didn't cost a dime. this is just the beginning.
 
You have free long distance?

ROTFLMAO...

You are a boob.

Imagine a Ron Paul fanatic, thinking he gets "free" long distance.


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wrong... even the NYT acknowledged that grass root efforts brought down the scamnesty bill. i called my senators, did you? i have free long distance.... didn't cost a dime. this is just the beginning.
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You have free long distance?

ROTFLMAO...

You are a boob.

Imagine a Ron Paul fanatic, thinking he gets "free" long distance.
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please support your position, this should be amusing.
 
You are a boob, and nothing is "free" at least to working adults....

Grow up.

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i don't pay any cost for long distance... you called me a boob and now you cower away from your statement.
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You are a boob, and nothing is "free" at least to working adults....

Grow up.
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO... i don't pay any cost for long distance. this is a fact... you are wrong.. AGAIN!!!
 
If you are a working adult, thinking that something free with no strings attached, etc. is a delusion, as adults grow out of that fantasy, and supports my theory about you being another wack job for Paul...

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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO... i don't pay any cost for long distance. this is a fact... you are wrong.. AGAIN!!!
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