Bush, Obama, Founding Fathers & ET
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At a local auto store in Thailand (well into the Iraq war)
a group of well heeled businessmen heard me talk on my mobile, concluded I was yank, one said hello and then asked, "how can your country do such a thing?"
such was the sentiment all around, in almost every asian country and in many euro countries too ...
That cocksucker Bush killed 200 yrs. of goodwill in a week.
And the worst for me and Bobby was when we heard the TV commentators saying, "we've accomplished air superiority now" ..... yeah against inadequately armed men and women and children.
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Then years later came the black man, THE BARACK. The whole world cheered and loved him instantly. Even whites all over the world loved this guy. And remember, he's black.
I remember seeing Brad Pitt being interviewd by Larry King. Brad was in Germany at the time. When Larry asked him about Barack, Brad took a whole minute to answer, so choked up the fellow was. Finally he said, "HOPE has arrived"
That was the sentiment about Barack.
No but you clowns after feasting on credit for 1000s of years blame your shitty habits on the black guy, knowing full well he can't do a thing to stop this freight train - nobody can. Its gotta run its course.
No wonder the country's going to the dogs; can't even flow power to our president who was voted in by the people fair and square.
Barack is a masterpiece just like this song was/is a classic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3iPP-tHdA
a group of well heeled businessmen heard me talk on my mobile, concluded I was yank, one said hello and then asked, "how can your country do such a thing?"
such was the sentiment all around, in almost every asian country and in many euro countries too ...
That cocksucker Bush killed 200 yrs. of goodwill in a week.
And the worst for me and Bobby was when we heard the TV commentators saying, "we've accomplished air superiority now" ..... yeah against inadequately armed men and women and children.
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Then years later came the black man, THE BARACK. The whole world cheered and loved him instantly. Even whites all over the world loved this guy. And remember, he's black.
I remember seeing Brad Pitt being interviewd by Larry King. Brad was in Germany at the time. When Larry asked him about Barack, Brad took a whole minute to answer, so choked up the fellow was. Finally he said, "HOPE has arrived"
That was the sentiment about Barack.
No but you clowns after feasting on credit for 1000s of years blame your shitty habits on the black guy, knowing full well he can't do a thing to stop this freight train - nobody can. Its gotta run its course.
No wonder the country's going to the dogs; can't even flow power to our president who was voted in by the people fair and square.
Barack is a masterpiece just like this song was/is a classic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3iPP-tHdA
Thread point is ....
91% of americans were in fckin glee over Uncle George's call for the Iraq war!
91% of americans at ET were in fckin glee over Uncle George's call for the Iraq war!
91% of americans at ET were/are George Bush twice voters.
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Given the above, which already has 91% against Obama right out the fckin gate, now throw in the following .......
He's black, possibly muslim, possibly related to or is Osama, was Saddam's godchild, has a big cock, was not born in america ....
one might ask, if there is even ONE person here who likes Barack, its a fckin miracle.
91% of americans were in fckin glee over Uncle George's call for the Iraq war!
91% of americans at ET were in fckin glee over Uncle George's call for the Iraq war!
91% of americans at ET were/are George Bush twice voters.
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Given the above, which already has 91% against Obama right out the fckin gate, now throw in the following .......
He's black, possibly muslim, possibly related to or is Osama, was Saddam's godchild, has a big cock, was not born in america ....
one might ask, if there is even ONE person here who likes Barack, its a fckin miracle.
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What would the Founding Fathers say about suing Arizona and pandering to illegal aliens instead of enforcing the law, in hopes of making them voters to help turn the United States into a socialist welfare state?
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=204527
What would the Founding Fathers say about obstructing military voting rights while helping felons to vote in order to achieve the same end?
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=204490
What would the Founding Fathers say about the first lady vacationing like this AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE while her husband is on track to triple the national debt as he tries to turn the United States into a socialist welfare state?
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2917132#post2917132
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The Founding Fathers would say burn the fckin shithouse down; its not the America they had in mind, but some fcked up version of Retard Central .... but they would note these points ...
(1) The country had already gone to the dogs way before the black guy showed up.
(2) The thieves of the previous admin. stole billions and split it amongst 30-50 guys. Why shouldn't the current guy do the same? Take whatever you can get, because the whole shithouse is going into Secession.
(2) They warned not to interfere in the affairs of other nations, but heck no, we went one step further and LIED like a fckin cunt about weapons and then bribed many countries to see things our way so we could go to war and do fuck knows what, becausue we sure as hell lost the fckin war too.
(2) America has become a nation of crybabies, never being in a fair fight for aeons. If we can't even finish off Iraq, think what China would do to us?
(3) The education system has been so fucked up for decades that american youth are easily eclipsed by that of sooooo many asian countries.
The founding Fathers could say a whole lot more, but their call for walking away from such a total ignominious loss would be understandable.
God bless our Founding Fathers
because of high % of thick, high-density individuals here, some excerpts are provided free of charge ..............
As George Washington stated in his Farewell Address of 1796: "The Great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign Nations is in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible. . . . âTis our true policy to steer clear of permanent Alliances, with any portion of the foreign World."
"trade with either, side with neither."
Washington was hardly alone. His resolute opposition to foreign intervention was shared by all the Founders. Neither he nor the other Founders intended any exceptions to be made for Kosovo or Taiwan.
As James Madison put it, "it has been the true glory of the United States,â in âfulfilling their neutral obligations with the most scrupulous impartiality . . . to maintain sincere neutrality toward belligerent nations,â and âto exclude foreign intrigues and foreign partialities." Thomas Jefferson concurred, declaring that the foreign policy of a free society has to mean âPeace, commerce, and honest friendship, with all nations â entangling alliances with none." "Our first and fundamental maxim should be, never to entangle ourselves in the broils of Europe." Ditto Asia.
because of high % of thick, high-density individuals here, some excerpts are provided free of charge ..............
As George Washington stated in his Farewell Address of 1796: "The Great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign Nations is in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible. . . . âTis our true policy to steer clear of permanent Alliances, with any portion of the foreign World."
"trade with either, side with neither."
Washington was hardly alone. His resolute opposition to foreign intervention was shared by all the Founders. Neither he nor the other Founders intended any exceptions to be made for Kosovo or Taiwan.
As James Madison put it, "it has been the true glory of the United States,â in âfulfilling their neutral obligations with the most scrupulous impartiality . . . to maintain sincere neutrality toward belligerent nations,â and âto exclude foreign intrigues and foreign partialities." Thomas Jefferson concurred, declaring that the foreign policy of a free society has to mean âPeace, commerce, and honest friendship, with all nations â entangling alliances with none." "Our first and fundamental maxim should be, never to entangle ourselves in the broils of Europe." Ditto Asia.
Why exactly were the Founding Fathers so unanimously and unambiguously opposed to "proactively" exporting American values beyond our shores? Did they not want liberty to prevail all over the world, not just in America? What was their problem anyway? Were they too shortsighted or selfish, as the nomenklatura of the New World Order seem to imply, to understand the value of "making the world safe for democracy?"
The answer to all these questions is a resounding "No." The Founding Fathers were cultured cosmopolitans who devoutly hoped that liberty would triumph the world over. And no, their foreign policy prescriptions have not been rendered obsolete by jet travel and the Internet, because their soundness was not predicated on specific technologies. Rather, their strategic vision was grounded solidly in their grasp of fundamental human nature, which has evolved little since 1796, however we might wish otherwise.
The Founders, powdered wigs and all, were infinitely more "hip" than we give them credit for, and understood something our smug modern politicians do not. They understood that to yield to the powerful temptation to "do good" abroad carries an enormously expensive and hidden price tag: the loss of our own liberty at home.
They understood that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely," that handing the political class the power they demand to impose "benevolent global hegemony" on the rest of the world permits them to impose a malevolent domestic dictatorship on Americans at home.
The answer to all these questions is a resounding "No." The Founding Fathers were cultured cosmopolitans who devoutly hoped that liberty would triumph the world over. And no, their foreign policy prescriptions have not been rendered obsolete by jet travel and the Internet, because their soundness was not predicated on specific technologies. Rather, their strategic vision was grounded solidly in their grasp of fundamental human nature, which has evolved little since 1796, however we might wish otherwise.
The Founders, powdered wigs and all, were infinitely more "hip" than we give them credit for, and understood something our smug modern politicians do not. They understood that to yield to the powerful temptation to "do good" abroad carries an enormously expensive and hidden price tag: the loss of our own liberty at home.
They understood that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely," that handing the political class the power they demand to impose "benevolent global hegemony" on the rest of the world permits them to impose a malevolent domestic dictatorship on Americans at home.
America, the "world's only remaining superpower," has troops stationed in 144 foreign nations around the globe. Today the sun never sets on the American Empire. Back home however, Posse Comitatus is a dead letter, and the smart weapons used against Saddam and Milosevic to "make the world safe for democracy" have been used to exterminate dissident parishioners of a rural Texas Protestant sect, including two dozen unarmed children. As John Quincy Adams warned, America has become "the dictatress of the world" but is "no longer... the ruler of her own spirit.â Our Founding Fathers' worst fears have come true.
America in 1787 was only 13 states along the east coast. The American continent was occupied by 4 enemy powers, The Spanish, French, British, Indians.
Over the next 75 years America's policy of "manifest destiny" was to capture the whole Continent and defeat all foreign forces on the land. This was done through war, purchasing and law.
Make no mistake Americas was going to do whatever it took to conquer the Continent. Many felt some actions were criminal especialy against the Indians.
This is America.
Quote from deadbroke:
At a local auto store in Thailand (well into the Iraq war)
a group of well heeled businessmen heard me talk on my mobile, concluded I was yank, one said hello and then asked, "how can your country do such a thing?"
such was the sentiment all around, in almost every asian country and in many euro countries too ...
That cocksucker Bush killed 200 yrs. of goodwill in a week.
And the worst for me and Bobby was when we heard the TV commentators saying, "we've accomplished air superiority now" ..... yeah against inadequately armed men and women and children.
------------------------------------------------
Then years later came the black man, THE BARACK. The whole world cheered and loved him instantly. Even whites all over the world loved this guy. And remember, he's black.
I remember seeing Brad Pitt being interviewd by Larry King. Brad was in Germany at the time. When Larry asked him about Barack, Brad took a whole minute to answer, so choked up the fellow was. Finally he said, "HOPE has arrived"
That was the sentiment about Barack.
No but you clowns after feasting on credit for 1000s of years blame your shitty habits on the black guy, knowing full well he can't do a thing to stop this freight train - nobody can. Its gotta run its course.
No wonder the country's going to the dogs; can't even flow power to our president who was voted in by the people fair and square.
Barack is a masterpiece just like this song was/is a classic
Re your statement about how Bush wiped out 200 years of good will, that's a stretch, "Yankee go home" preceded the man. However, the supposed foreign policy reversal promised by Obama is why I think Obama won the Peace Prize; it was based on sentiment.
If you did alot of traveling OUTSIDE America you wouldn't argue this one with me for even a nanosecond. It would be just too damn obvious the extent of the damage Uncle George did.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/14/bush-visits-iraq-for-fina_n_150832.html