Bush news conferance. what a sad delusional out of touch man.

[clacy]

Firstly, people act like the entire fate of the US is determined by one man. There is a hell of a lot more to our political system then just the President.

Have you seen ANY improvement in your life since the Dems took over congress TWO years ago?

Secondly, that guy had a very tough hand to deal with. 911, War on Terror, and a bubble economy. As opposed to Bill Clinton, who had very little in the way of foreign or domestic problems to deal with.

He may or may not have chosen the wrong path in Iraq, but we won't likely know that outcome for years to come, so save the Iraq stuff.

As for the economy, let's face it. There is much more to that than the US President. Is it Bush's fault that Ford and GM were hemoraging money during the best of times?

Was it Bush's fault that the rating's agencies completely mispriced the mortgage derivitives?

Was it his fault that the average American is up to his eye's in CC debt or took out 125% to value loans on their house?

I realize that Bush didn't solve many of the problems that arose during his presidency and ha certainly appointed some pretty inept people (Paulson, Rumsfeld), but please don't act like he was alone in all this.

Our entire political system is corrupt and inept. Ask yourself if you really feel like Gore (certifiably insane) or Kerry (just as much of a dunce as Bush) would have been any better.

The only difference if either of those two would have won, would be we wouldn't be in Iraq, and I'm not yet convinced that that won't end up being the right move afterall.

I guess the other thing that would be different, is that much more of our tax dollars would be going toward the myth that is wind and solar energy.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from DWV:

By putting this in the "Wall St. News" forum you are delusional = get a life and quit blaming the president for your poor trading

it was news. he was live on tv when i posted. did you watch? the reporters asked him if he made any mistakes or would do anything different. he said no. he even defended his katrina performance as a good job.

 

[4444CJones4444]

Quote from clacy:

Firstly, people act like the entire fate of the US is determined by one man. There is a hell of a lot more to our political system then just the President.

The call the president the leader of the free world for a reason, but George never was a leader, was he?

And for the guy who posted a list of presidents that did worse than George. You gotta be kidding me.

And just so everyone knows, I'm no damn liberal. The people that should be most disgusted with George are republicans.

 

[stock_trad3r]

Quote from vhehn:

nothing was his fault. he actually thinks he did a good job.

Because he really did do a good job. I'm serious. Bush was a good president for the economy and on foreign relations.

 

[ByLoSellHi]

Thanks for posting the dumbest op/ed piece I've ever read in my life so that I can pass it on and let others share the laughter!!!

Quote from jficquette:

Farewell to George W. Bush. The. Worst. President. In. Modern. History.

Except for Nixon. That glowering paranoid freak sucker-punched the economy with his absurd price controls, secretly bombed Cambodia and led a gang of burgling henchmen who would later fill the federal prisons.

And Johnson. The most divisive event in modern American politics, it may surprise you to learn, is not the premature draping of a "Mission Accomplished" banner on an aircraft carrier or the decision to wiretap members of Al Qaeda's Friends and Family plan. It was the Vietnam War. It was a little matter of 60,000 fine Americans - many of them draftees, not volunteers - sent off to die for an irrelevant sliver of jungle on the shady pretext of a trumped-up, possibly fictitious attack in the Tonkin Gulf.

And Kennedy. LBJ sank into the quagmire that Kennedy stepped in. JFK wasn't kidding with that "Bear any burden, pay any price" nonsense, that "ask what you can do for your country" drivel. What he wanted you to do for your country was be drafted and go fight Communists wherever they lurked, even rice-paddy Communists in pajamas who would have posed no threat to this country unless they had figured out how to launch intercontinental ballistic spitballs. And how about botching the Bay of Pigs invasion, which led Cuba and the Soviets to buy an insurance policy in the form of a missile site that took this country the closest it has ever come to nuclear war?

And Carter. Four years of malaise. Inflation was running at levels last seen in Weimar Germany. Military morale sank to an all-time low as Carter allowed the armed forces to decay so badly that Delta Force commandos got nowhere near rescuing hostages being held by a bunch of jibbering religious freaks.

And Reagan. Let's not forget who presided over the only really agonizing recession since the Depression, the 1981-1982 one, in which the U.S. economy exhibited unemployment levels that can only be described as "Swedish." And let's not forget his whopper when he said he didn't know about the illegal Iran-Contra operation. Of course he knew.

And Truman. Small wonder he had an 22% approval rating when he was forced out of office instead of running for a second full term, after squandering 50,000 American lives who "died for a tie" in Korea.

And Clinton. A lying, venal, human petri dish of corruption, Clinton is to integrity what the frat house is to cleanliness. He swept up innocent people around him in his vortex of untruth and sold pardons to criminals for the hilariously pathetic purpose of adding to his own glory at his presidential library. Signing the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act that set investment banks free doesn't look so uncontroversial today, does it?

And FDR. The downturn of 1937 - in FDR's second term - was almost as bad as the original one. How could his stewardship of WWII have been much worse? What kind of president lets our trans-Pond cousins get bombed in their beds every night for months? And Roosevelt should have opened the doors to every Jewish refugee who asked for asylum. Instead he locked them out. And he was so unprepared for the Japanese attack military theorists had predicted for years that our sailors got bombed in their own beds from Hawaii to the Philippines. Later he imprisoned thousands of Americans for the crime of having Japanese ancestry. By setting up Social Security not as a charity for the poor but as a Ponzi scheme, he insured that the program would cripple the budget some day while millionaires collected their checks each month on the golf course. And long before any of this he unleashed perhaps the most deranged attack on the Constitution in presidential history when he proposed adding six new Justices to the Supreme Court because he didn't like the ones who were already on it.

Everything is the best/worst/funniest/most tragic/most brilliant thing ever, if you're a high school girl, the hero of "Memento" or a political commentator. Things look different if you extend your memory more than five minutes into the past. Maybe the problem is the lack of a buzzword for the scandal. Here's one: "Superlativegate."

www.KyleSmithOnline.com

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from stock_trad3r:

Because he really did do a good job. I'm serious. Bush was a good president for the economy and on foreign relations.

the airlines are bankrupt,the auto makers,the banks,many retail stores. 40% of homeowners are either under water or bankrupt the nation has lost 12 trillion in net worth,the market is down 50%, people have lost 50% of their retirement plans the national debt has trippled under bush. what exactly would be your criteria for a bad president?

 

[Fractals 'R Us]

Clinton handed GW 9/11, the mortgage meltdown, etc.. and speaking of meltdowns, can you imagine Clinton handling 9/11?? He would be trying to put together homeland security without allowing the FBI to talk to the CIA!! After Clinton, 9/11 and the financial meltdowns we still have a country!! Thank you GW Bush!!

 

[Landis82]

Quote from vhehn:

it was news. he was live on tv when i posted. did you watch? the reporters asked him if he made any mistakes or would do anything different. he said no. he even defended his katrina performance as a good job.

Looking back at his Presidency, I believe that he actually remarked that he believed that his plan to privatize Social Security was his biggest failure, and that if he had to do it all over again, he wouldn't have gone the route that he did.

 

[Landis82]

Quote from Fractals 'R Us:

Clinton handed GW 9/11, the mortgage meltdown, etc.. and speaking of meltdowns, can you imagine Clinton handling 9/11?? He would be trying to put together homeland security without allowing the FBI to talk to the CIA!! After Clinton, 9/11 and the financial meltdowns we still have a country!! Thank you GW Bush!!

Blah, blah, blah.

There is NO escaping the fact that Bush blew a huge opportunity to take Iran out of the WMD capability arena when he chose to REJECT giving the Israeli's the support that they needed to take out Iran's main nuclear reactor at Nanatz. Instead, the Iraqi nuclear program during the Bush years has done nothing but ACCELERATE and advance!

Bush REJECTED the Israelis plea for U.S. made "bunker-busting" bombs and permission to use Iraqi airspace.

Looks like Georgie once again missed the boat, AND once again blamed his decision on poor U.S. Intelligence from a late 2007 NIE report.

You either take IRAN OUT, or you don't.
Dumbya didn't.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/38875

Fractal, you could use a good dose of reality my friend.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from Landis82:

Looking back at his Presidency, I believe that he actually remarked that he believed that his plan to privatize Social Security was his biggest failure, and that if he had to do it all over again, he wouldn't have gone the route that he did.

i thought he said it was a mistake in the timing of when he introduced that plan not that the plan was a mistake.