Bush is a deer in the headlights

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Then why did you bring up the issue of the US being able to rein in Israel?

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No.

 

[claywilk]

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Sorry to tell you folks but your president is an idiot.
I agree but that's not really news, is it?

He should have given absolute unconditional support to Israel immediately.
Actually he did. The US is the only country in the world that can rein Israel in. From the diplomatic point of view Bush's silence is indeed "absolute unconditional support", his silence is golden. Oh my god, I can't believe I am defending this idiot.

My point would be that he inserted the notion that Israel should show "some restraint" and did not overtly offer Israel "support". We should stand shoulder to shoulder with them not just say "we support you". Akin to the "show of support" right wingers want to give our troops bogged down in Iraq. All Talk. Yellow ribbons on your trunk dont help shit. Wanna support our troops? get' em outta that crap in Iraq and let them do what they are trained to do in Syria and Iran. Iraq was never a real threat to the US. Iran is, and has always been our most dangerous enemy in the region.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

So your solution is to invade Iran and Syria?

Oy vey...

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My point would be that he inserted the notion that Israel should show "some restraint" and did not overtly offer Israel "support". We should stand shoulder to shoulder with them not just say "we support you". Akin to the "show of support" right wingers want to give our troops bogged down in Iraq. All Talk. Yellow ribbons on your trunk dont help shit. Wanna support our troops? get' em outta that crap in Iraq and let them do what they are trained to do in Syria and Iran. Iraq was never a real threat to the US. Iran is, and has always been our most dangerous enemy in the region.

 

[dddooo]

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Then why did you bring up the issue of the US being able to rein in Israel?

You're confusing possibility with necessity (I suspect deliberately). I said the US is the only country that can, that means Britan, Canada and all other countries can't, that does not mean that the US should.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

So you can imagine a situation where Israel would need to be reined in?

Please describe that for me....

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You're confusing possibility with necessity (I suspect deliberately). I said the US is the only country that can, that means Britan, Canada and all other countries can't, that does not mean that the US should.

 

[claywilk]

To not invade Iran right now, before they achieve nuclear weaponry would be totally negligent toward the well being of our children and grandchildren. The damn Shiites runnin that place are freakin nuts! I happen to have Persian friends who would agree with me. And I am sure that many of them inside Iran would love nothing more than for us to get rid of the lunatics. As far as Syria they are a bit player, but a serious thorn in Israels side.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Have your testosterone levels checked...

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To not invade Iran right now, before they achieve nuclear weaponry would be totally negligent toward the well being of our children and grandchildren. The damn Shiites runnin that place are freakin nuts! I happen to have Persian friends who would agree with me. And I am sure that many of them inside Iran would love nothing more than for us to get rid of the lunatics. As far as Syria they are a bit player, but a serious thorn in Israels side.

 

[dddooo]

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So your solution is to invade Iran and Syria?

Or bomb them back into the stone age. That's where their mentality already is, their infrastructure and military capacity should not exceed the level of their societal development.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

So the civilized action is to bomb them back into the stone age.

Lovely...

I feel very fortunate that when Gary Powers was captured, that Kennedy did not share your view of civilization.

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Or bomb them back into the stone age. That's where their mentality already is, their infrastructure and military capacity should not exceed the level of their societal development.

 

[dddooo]

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So the civilized action is to bomb them back into the stone age.

If that's the only alternative to them bombing us back into the stone age then yes. Does not sound nice but the action is civilized, especially given the fact that I was talking about their military infrastructure and capability.

Civilized is not synonymous with suicidal.