BUND Traders-Serious!!!

Quote from increasenow:

amazing liquidity on both bund and eurostoxx...these are great vehicles to trade...very great!!
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There is more liquidity in GBL & ESTX than you'll
ever need. However, liquidity isn't everything.
GBL is crap intraday. The battle of the bots.
What are your chances?
 
think it has 2nd highest volume of anything apart from Fed Funds. (trader monthly, 2006).

you may not love it but your clearer will.
 
Does anyone like US 5 and 10 years also. What is the opinion on these? Ive not traded them so I cant coment. Theres a lot of history though going back to the 80's on the 10 years especially. Anyone trade these also?
 
The other advantage of bund, bobl and schatz is the commission cost. I don't know any other future that is cheaper than these three.
Eurostoxx is a bit more expensive. ES a LOT more expensive to trade in terms of commission.
 
I'm surprised so many people said the Bund was not good for trading. Maybe back in 2007 that was the case but I've been trading it for 6 months now and I've been doing well. I trade Bund in the European morning and ES in the US morning and my Bund performance is much better than my ES peformance.

The last poster is right, the bund commission is roughly half that of ES (comparing commission to tick value). Getting half price commissions is huge. Makes it much easier to scalp. I'm not really a scalper but I don't hesitate to scale out if it doesn't move my way.

Here's my bund equity curve since Oct 29 (prior to that I was trading different setups):

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Quote from cunparis:

I'm surprised so many people said the Bund was not good for trading. Maybe back in 2007 that was the case but I've been trading it for 6 months now and I've been doing well. I trade Bund in the European morning and ES in the US morning and my Bund performance is much better than my ES peformance.

The last poster is right, the bund commission is roughly half that of ES (comparing commission to tick value). Getting half price commissions is huge. Makes it much easier to scalp. I'm not really a scalper but I don't hesitate to scale out if it doesn't move my way.

Here's my bund equity curve since Oct 29 (prior to that I was trading different setups):

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A lot of high frequency discretionary traders have moved away from the Bund primarily because the market is dominated by algo's and the short term edge is gone. That is why it's not a good trade for scalpers trading a short time frame.
 
Quote from Ticktaker:

A lot of high frequency discretionary traders have moved away from the Bund primarily because the market is dominated by algo's and the short term edge is gone. That is why it's not a good trade for scalpers trading a short time frame.
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Maybe what one sees as a problem is opportunity for someone else? My expectancy is 2 ticks and my equity curve is very smooth. I'm now working on increasing expectancy on my second target.

Maybe I'm subconciously seeing these algos and trading with them. I don't really know. Just know it's working for me.
 
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