Bulls are backed by Feds- who the hell backs you?

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Yes, I have seen it, and am totally sickened by it. At some point if it gets bad enough even the fed wont be able to keep up this prop job.
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Feds+ Treasury owns the Casino damn it! They will print more money, they will cut rates, they will inject liquidity, they will bail out Wall street firms. They will simply outright trade against you with unlimited resources and buy and sell SPX futures as if there is no tomorrow. Is there anyone stopping them? One thing is certain they won't let short seller hijack the markets or anyone for that matter, even a rogue nation or country.


They let you make bets that's all. US financial markets are not free for all pay per view WWE Wrestle mania events.
 
Quote from Capablanca:

In one corner: the Fed, PPT, Wall Street big wigs, etc.

In the other corner: Reality.

Place your bets!
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I will chose the winning side: Feds+ Paulson commando units- they own the Casino.

People think they can tinker with US markets and take them down. No No No.. it ain't going to happen.
 
Quote from HedgefundTrader2:

You dont need help, you are standing by, ready to deliver blows to the tummy and destroy anything in your path in your hopelessness and gloom.

Lesson #1 Donot fight the tape, go long make money like everybody else.
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wow good advice. You're so smart. However, where's this "tape" you speak of? I seem to be missing something. Tapes looking a little red.

Tinker and take down markets? The guys who make the markets took the markets down you idiot. lol what is wrong with people on here.

You're job is to trade...not have an opinion OR be a complete dumbass. Why are you bothering with either?
 
Quote from Capablanca:

In one corner: the Fed, PPT, Wall Street big wigs, etc.

In the other corner: Reality.

Place your bets!
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I'd like to place all my chips on reality, please.
 
Quote from HedgefundTrader2:

That is right. The so called PLUNGE PROTECTION TEAM is no secret organization but an inter- mesh of Federal Reserve, Department of Treasury, Securities & Exchange Commission and Futures & Trading committee. Its called PRESIDENT'S WORKING GROUP ON FINANICAIL MARKETS lead by none other than Henry Paul son Treasury Secretary whose signatures you find on your $5 dollar bills. He own the town and your money! The Federal reserves own all the Banks and all the money and gold bullion and the money printing presses!

http://ustreas.gov/press/releases/reports/pwgpolicystatemktturmoil_03122008.pdf

Now read the whole article outlining what they have aimed to do. It is obvious these teams are guarding US financial markets like hawks and its in their interest to make them smooth, stable, safe and prosper. If some interests or shorts and sellers get out of line and started pushing them, they will step in and stop it. That's why you see SPX never crashed on several occasions when the shorts and doom & gloom club stated pushing it below 1272 levels and it stopped on the dime. The Feds immediately start buying futures and started soaring SPX cash and use other tactics with vast resources. Those who think they can outwit the Feds are basically uninformed and know nothing.

This is not your Casino, instead of being owned by the mob, its owned by a bigger organization called the US government. Its the Feds who back the bulls and manipulates markets higher. If you think US markets operate in some kind of free for all wrestling match, think again. You are only allowed to place your bets and get out. Trying to screw with them its like trying to pick a fight with US army and US Air Force guarding our homeland. Get yourself some perspective, there are no free markets, just just a joke told to naives and idiots and fools.

I wholeheartedly support our Feds and may they push our markets higher in coming months. They have done a good job pushing SPX above rising 50 day moving average and once we clear 1400 levels we can be bullish again for the balance of the year. The market is going higher with or without a recession and doom and gloom club has limited options.

Bulls are backed by Feds- who the hell backs you? It must be your short selling , day scalping, under capitalized, gambling addicts?
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Plunge Protection Team only props up the markets for short periods of time. Do more hw on the PPT
 
HedgefundTrader2 what you don't seem to get is this isn't just a game about short sellers vs. the all mighty Fed. Sure the fed will prop the market up as much as it can and they can't do it forever. And short selling may cause some rapid plunges but the market isn't going to tank because of short selling alone, people are going to start pulling their money from the market.

People are going to stop investing for a number of reasons. First of all they will stop for no other reason than because the equities they are investing into are bad investments. Second of all people are going to pull money from the market because they need the cash to live.

This concept that the fed can endlessly prop the market up is just plain ignorant. They are already starting to run low on tools. And sure they could start printing money, but even someone that seems so determined to see one side of the story must recognize that printing money is going to lead to inflation. Inflation will only feed this cycle.

You also need to wake up the fact that recessions are natural and healthy for the economy. A recession isn't the end of the world nor the end of the market.
 
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HedgefundTrader2 what you don't seem to get is this isn't just a game about short sellers vs. the all mighty Fed. Sure the fed will prop the market up as much as it can and they can't do it forever. And short selling may cause some rapid plunges but the market isn't going to tank because of short selling alone, people are going to start pulling their money from the market.

People are going to stop investing for a number of reasons. First of all they will stop for no other reason than because the equities they are investing into are bad investments. Second of all people are going to pull money from the market because they need the cash to live.

This concept that the fed can endlessly prop the market up is just plain ignorant. They are already starting to run low on tools. And sure they could start printing money, but even someone that seems so determined to see one side of the story must recognize that printing money is going to lead to inflation. Inflation will only feed this cycle.

You also need to wake up the fact that recessions are natural and healthy for the economy. A recession isn't
the end of the world nor the end of the market.
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YOU seem not to get it. How many times SPX had the chance to blow past 1270 levels in last 3 months? I counted at least 6 times, yet it magically stops on dime.

Never underestimate the Feds, they will never run out of tools. They have cut massive rates that have in turn created huge tons of money resources and fuel for the economy. Money market accounts only paying 2-3 % where do you think that horded cash is going to end up?

Do you remember the last time Feds started cutting rates Greenspan only cut 0.5 point at a time , what happened afterwards? Rewind to circa 2001-2003.

Feds created biggest bull market in equities and real estate. You eye Feds as some incompetent idiots who have not played this game for last 100 years. IF the Feds had not raised rates from 2003- 2005 about 18 times we should still have a sizzling real estate markets. Its their game, they turn the spigot on and off.

BTW US financial markets are not some arbitrary random walk game. They are heavily guarded and controlled events. Presidents working group overseas such events and makes sure a smooth , stable and uneventful environment.

Lets see if you can push SPX below 1270 anytime soon. Try shorting with all your puny capital, and will powers. Come on try lil bastards.
 
ah poor (wanna be) hft...you are showing your utter lack of market knowledge (again)...the fed started ctuung rates 1/01...when did the market finally bottom? October '03. the fed did not start a sustainable anything..they created the equity bubble in '98. the created the even more ridiculous real estate bubble in '01...also the mkt did pierce 1270 the last time we were down there, it traded @ 1255ish..the longer you keep hitting the support level the weaker it gets. if you think the fed cares about the 1270 level you are even more naive than is humanly possible. just keep blaming your total inability to whatever you are saying this week you do, no one is buying it here. I'm still shortfrom around 1372, my stop has not even come close to getting hit. owned as usual.
 
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