Buffett and Gates say no correlation

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Oh? How many famous/important/influential people in history have made sacrifices to stand up to the principles they believe in? When they have, it has made impact. People look at them and respect their views, even if they don't agree with them because they act on principle and stick to it.
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Gates Foundation Agrees to Give $750 Million to Global Fund Gates Foundation Agrees to Give $750 Million to Global Fund.

I know it's not taxes, but I think the Gates do a pretty good job with their money.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...grees-to-give-750-million-to-global-fund.html



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Quote from Tsing Tao:

Ok, I'll say it yet another way. It's not about making an impact numerically. It's about garnering respect, even if someone disagrees with you. It's also about showing the strength of your conviction.
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You are right, everyone would be a lot more impressed if they went ahead and did it, even once. Except for a bunch of other One Percenters I imagine.
 
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Respect? Only a fool respects someone who pisses in the wind to no effect.
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So THIS is why you get no respect here on ET.
 
Quote from Ricter:

Lol, keep firing, Brass, we've got Tsing pinned down!

I think morality is a different set of rules. Not completely different, there's certainly overlap. For example, Gates just announced a $750 million donation to fight disease.

I have no doubt that if tax increases on the wealthy were brought into force, that both Buffett and Gates would pay, not happily, but not begrudgingly either.
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Not morality, principle. Not always the same. If Buffet and Gates wanted to be the champions of the "we're rich and believe we should pay more taxes" which is what Buffet has said before, then they should do so - and not just because they're forced to.
 
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Respect? Only a fool respects someone who pisses in the wind to no effect. Why don't you go live with John Galt on his island where you can weave baskets and barter? Imagine the respect I'll have for you.
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These types of your responses are what I eluded to yesterday, and why you and I can never have good debates like Ricter and I have.
 
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You are right, everyone would be a lot more impressed if they went ahead and did it, even once. Except for a bunch of other One Percenters I imagine.
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Sure would leave some one percenters going "well, they put their money where their mouth is", as well as the rest of us.
 
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Not morality, principle. Not always the same. If Buffet and Gates wanted to be the champions of the "we're rich and believe we should pay more taxes" which is what Buffet has said before, then they should do so - and not just because they're forced to.
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All these arrogant two faced liberals can write a check any time them want.

Apparently...they just don't really want to.


https://www.pay.gov/paygov/forms/formInstance.html?agencyFormId=23779454
 
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These types of your responses are what I eluded to yesterday, and why you and I can never have good debates like Ricter and I have.
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I don't care to debate with someone who is being intentionally obtuse. Unless you go best efforts, I'll just point fingers.

P.S. Interesting Freudian slip, your use of the word elude, whereas I'm sure you meant to say allude. Yes, I do believe you are eluding simple reality to score nonsensical points. And that's why I returned the favor. And you didn't like it. See how that works?
 
Quote from Brass:

I don't care to debate with someone who is being intentionally obtuse. Unless you go best efforts, I'll just point fingers.

P.S. Interesting Freudian slip, your use of the word elude, whereas I'm sure you meant to say allude. Yes, I do believe you are eluding simple reality to score nonsensical points. And that's why I returned the favor. And you didn't like it. See how that works?
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You're a prick, pure and simple. You claim that others cannot see your point, yet you make absolutely no effort to see where anyone else is coming from. You figure that if you don't think the response is worthy, it isn't. That's the arrogance you used under Gabfly, Thunderdog and now your new persona.

Instead of focusing on content and the spirit of what someone is trying to say, you try to point out grammatical or spelling mistakes, leaping at any opportunity to insert what you believe are witty quips, but really offering vapid retorts best left to trolls and sock puppets that are the making of forum participants on par with c-kid.

You once messaged me privately that participating in the P+R forums had cost you more than you care to admit - and I still have no idea what that meant. All I can hope is that someone of your nature truly experiences more of whatever pain and discomfort you referred to in that pm.

This forum will be more enjoyable with you on ignore - not because you have differing view points (as you will no doubt attribute it to) but because you are unable to convey those differing viewpoints in any other way apart from attempts at humiliating and insulting the person to whom you are trying to interact with.

But because I don't want you to to think I simply hung up the phone, I'll be the better man and give you the last word before I hang it up. Then I'll hang it up.
 
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