As always I enjoy your writings and marvel at the wit and wordsmanship of such a young man. You're without doubt one of a handful of TRULY gifted intellectuals on this board.
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Well bro, naturally any effort to increase the white vote by such a margin would require an anti-immigration platform. Ending immigration is far simpler than some people think it is. It's not this unstoppable, inevitable wave that we have simply been damned by fate to experience. Look at Europe, that continent is being invaded daily by thoroughly incompatible Africans and Muslims. (It is impossible that such immigration could be positive for Europe.) The reason they come is they know Europeans lack the backbone or will to throw them back into the sea. If Europeans starting sinking a few ships watch how quickly they'd stop. (Or if Americans shot a few border jumpers or mined the border, watch how quick it would stop. You wouldn't even have to shoot many. Maybe a dozen.)
Dan, while many of us would gleefully shoot at turbaned Islamic invaders from Algeria as they cross our borders, way fewer are willing to "call for arms" toward poor Catholics fleeing from the family farm in the desert's of Mexico. They're pitied. I'm all for closing off the U.S. to further immigration but only with a corresponding amnesty program. The bullshit rhetoric about "rewarding those who broke our laws" is nauseating. As if being a busboy at the Waffle House is such a gift from God that one must feel blessed having avoided the guillotine to get there.
Wait a minute, you can't just use vague terms like "largely". What proportion exactly are we talking about? I don't have the stats but I'd be willing to bet it's not even 20% that are business owners and probably much less. I fail to see the logic in appealing to such an insignificant minority.
Dan, if you live in a place like Chicago or Miami it's hard to find blue-collar" whites who still do "old school" stuff. This is a world of techno-geeks masturbating on ET, not of guys doing grunt work. Miami's full of wealthy Cuban's who made a fortune in mundane stuff like Air Conditioning repairs. Mexican's are following that lead. They do create jobs. And they work jobs. The BIG issue here and in Europe is WHEN ARE WHITES GOING TO HAVE CHILDREN AGAIN? What's a major political issue with chicks? Abortion. And with guy's? Homo-marriage. We're doomed. When I said there's no whites, I was only being semi facetious. If you opened a hotel to-morrow, how would you fill your housekeeping roster?
And what's a "reasonably" good job? Look at the numbers. Hispanics have children out of wedlock at almost twice the white rate (42 to 22%, while blacks are a staggering 70%). Births to girls younger than 14 are four times the white rate. Births to girls 15-17 occur at three times the white rate (higher even than blacks). And that's not because of "Catholic values" against abortion - hispanics abort at 1.5 times the white rate.
With respect to cultural assimilation, they're being Catholic is obviously good, but you don't really think they're very committed Catholics do you? In any case, I would bet anything their identity as hispanics trumps their identity as catholics.
You're completely correct in so that various "lifestyle" statistics place Mexicans somewhere between whites and blacks on the "good neighbor" scale. For instance 25% of Chicago homicides are now committed by Mexicans. For you sports fans out there, whites typically commit about 2% of Chicago murders. I don't know how many cerveza fueled Mexican motorists are taking out white Chicago pedestrians each night but it's apparent that MADD puts on very few seminars at Mexican schoolhouses. However if you look at Europe the problem with their immigrants is all about Islam. At least here the Mexican who shoots you from his pickup truck has a statue of Mary sitting on his dashboard.
But why Pabst? Seriously, why? Why should whites allow themselves to be pushed out (where are they 'on the way out' to, anyway?) by a people whose race is a centerpiece of their identity? These people aren't coming to America to be 'good Americans'. They see themselves as and are fully intent on staying Mexicans.
Dan, I think half of them are so Indio-stupid they don't even know they're Mexican. Would the world be better if law enforcement used tactics like the Brazilian police? Of course. It would be great if around 2 billion Muslims, poor Africans, Asians and Hispanics just "dropped dead". Before I'm labeled as Stalin, what I'm trying to say is that the third-world is never a thought or consideration to Westerner's until it crosses our rose garden. We're immune. We know nothing about wars, famine and Aids and even the limousine liberals are COMPLETELY disconnected from the life of the world's masses. 9/11 perfectly illustrated that. So since Europe, the U.S. and Au/Nz find these people nothings, zero's, why do we need them? Aren't they a potential can of worms without any socio/economic benefit? Starve 'em out! That's the American, Christ like way!!! And if that doesn't work, let's nuke 'em! Then we can have everyone's oil, diamonds and rain forest. How beautiful would Sau Paulo be if we could strip it down to 4 million or so? Since death to the poor is not going to happen (in fact death to the bourgeois is FAR more likely) the the West had very quickly figure out ways to share the wealth and power with the southern hemisphere.
Okay, it's going to get worse. But is that any reason not to try and limit the damage? I just don't get why you're so willing to throw your hands in the air over this. Europeans used to die by the millions to prevent precisely the effects that are taking place in America today - the invader takes over your cities, displaces your language, installs his own history, celebrates his own heroes and concerns himself with the welfare of his own kind. Isn't that what Mexicans are doing in America?
I'm not sure I'd welcome you to Oz, bro. I'd want someone that's willing to fight the good fight, not throw in the towel as Australia giddies up to be swamped by Asians.
Like I said, you can build a wall if you like. I'm anti-immigration from this point forward. I see no way though to turn back the clock. I have a moral problem with kicking people out who've been here for years and in many instances are parents of American citizens. Everyone here came from somewhere else.
Funny story. My neighbor is a former Catholic who's discovered atheism. He blames religion for the world's woes. Sorta true, I suppose. So he asks me what I think of Lennon's line about religion in Imagine. Knowing he's a HUGE anti-immigration guy I shot back at him, "what about a world without countries". Shouldn't God's children freely live, work and prosper wherever they want to wander? The Jews seem to have that concept down.
Of course my neighbor was left scratching his head muttering, "I never said the song was gospel."
I hope Australia realizes they've got to many Asians as well..Make 'em immigrate to Alice Springs!
That's a no brainer, who wouldn't. You are aware, though, that BA and Santiago are largely white? Argentina is even whitere than America, with the vast majority of its population descended from Spanish and Italians. Chile's a bit more mestizo but not overwhelmingly so. That's a far cry from the kind of hispanics flooding into America. Many of them are pure Indians - like those bowler hat wearing Peruvians and Bolivians - that have barely assimilated into Mexican culture (some still can't even speak Spanish) after 500 years, so the prospects of their assimiliating into anything like American culture any time soon seem pretty dim.
Hey! Do you think I picked BA out of a hat?? Anyplace that has millions of Italian ex-pats taking tango lessons in a dance studio above a cafe' is my kind of town!
I can't be bothered going over what I've just written, but if my tone sounds a bit exasperated, I hope you can forgive me. You're one of the good guys, but I have trouble understanding why you feel the way you do.