Originally posted by Don Bright
777....I still don't know why you are so upset by others answering questions, giving honest answers and opinions, and generally sharing our trading community in an upbeat and friendly manner. You speak of SoCal and surfing and all the rest, well I grew up there doing the same thing....I've stayed at Corky Carroll's cabin in Crestline, surfed Trestle's with Hobie Alter, and was on Rich Harbor's surf team before switching rides to Renny Yater's "Santa Barbara Surf Shop" boards. I was "shooting the Huntington Pier" with John Boozer and the boys before you were born probably. I was a member of the San Onofre surf club, with Hal Landis and the other surf rats from the Hollywood area. (To others: these are well known figures and places in the surfing set).
I've never had a problem getting along with people, and never had a reason to have to make up a "life"....mine has been pretty good, and I enjoy helping others.
Your attitude doesn't seem to reflect the surfer -type at all, more like that of someone who is upset all the time.
I would hope that we could chat some day, and get along....hell, even Tim Leary and G.Gordon Liddy had a talk show tour.....and Hitman and I have spoken several times, and got along well.
Your marketing partner,
Don...
One of the greatest tricks of a salesman is deflection. A good salesman attempts to deflect criticism by not dealing with an issue or question directly. They attempt to chummy up to the person who is offering up the criticism, attempt to bond with that person by finding a common ground, attempt to change the subject, and subtley try to make the person who initiated the criticism wrong in what they are doing and saying. If a salesman can make some bridge of friendship, the buyer has a harder and harder keeping to their objectivity that the salesman is really not their friend, but their enemy. He begins to think, this is not such a bad guy, he wouldn't lie to me, take advantage of me, or abuse me. It is just he con of a salesman at work, and the best salesmen are the best cons.....whether they are selling a product, a service, a political agenda, a religious belief, or anything else.
You display all the sales tricks and psychological attempts that salesmen use, and you can believe me or not, I know just a wee bit about the science and psychology of the sales process.
The "Winning Friends and Influencing People" approach is about the "friendship" between a salesman and a customer, between a ho and a John, and between a recruiter and the firm they are recruiting for.
I am not upset at all by "others" answering questions. I am actually not "upset" by you employing constant marketing and recruiting practices...I just call em the way I see em.
And just as you see me in the light of your choosing, employing your psychological evaluation of me and my motives (you really don't know who I am and what my motive is, so it is just speculation on your part), I see you in the light of my perspective.
I don't expect you to change your perspective, and you would be unsuccessful in changing mine with the tricks in your bag.
I have not declared you wrong in your perspective of me, I could care less what defense you throw up.
Make jokes about it, make suggestings that I am helping your marketing efforts, suggest that I am in the wrong, or unhappy, or angry, or have some psychological problem etc. have been your defense mechanism. That is your right, and the approach you have taken. Paint me out to be the bad guy and yourself as the man in the white hat.
However, since I don't care what you think, and If I cared what you said or thought, why would I even bother once you had made some attempt to dress me down or diminish the validity of the points I raise?
I will agree with one thing you posted in this thread:
"Thanks for posting up some facts about the Company....It always looks better coming from one of our traders.
It does always "look" better coming from your traders. If I had my way, marketing managers wouldn't be able to spend time in the forum defending and pushing their products and services unless a disclaimer was posted in every session stating that they were paying for the right to post there, and that a disclaimer of their product and service were also listed----just like other advertisers in the financial industry are required to.
You state that you "hope that we could "chat" some day."
Were you ever to come "clean" that hope might come to pass, but my perspective is that you actually believe your own stuff.
Yes, Don, we will "chat" some day......
That day will be the day when Las Vegas freezes over.