Brutal MSNBC Moment: Chris Matthews Crucifies Flustered Obama Backer

[saxon]

Quote from Maverick74:

Saxon, you really need to do your research. Obama has the most liberal voting record of any US Senator. That's right, he is actually to the left of Ted Kennedy.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/news/2008/01/obama_ranked_most_liberal_sena_1.html

No Maverick...YOU need and the other parrots need to do your research, cause all you guys seem to be able to do is quote me the The National Journal ratings.

I, on the other hand, have actually checked Obama's voting record, and I see nothing ultra-liberal about it.

Once again, what we have here is a case of "Maybe if I repeat a charge enough times, it will magically become true."

It won't.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from saxon:

No Maverick...YOU need and the other parrots need to do your research, cause all you guys seem to be able to do is quote me the The National Journal ratings.

I, on the other hand, have actually checked Obama's voting record, and I see nothing ultra-liberal about it.

Once again, what we have here is a case of "Maybe if I repeat a charge enough times, it will magically become true."

It won't.

Huh? Are you serious? I can cite you 20 studies, some of them by liberal sources that rank Obama anywhere from the most liberal to in the top 10. I'm not trying to repeat anything. If you checked out his views at ontheissues.org and you don't see him as a liberal, I really don't know what to tell you. What issue from that site did you "NOT" find him liberal on?

You need to calm down. Personally I have nothing against Obama the man, just his voting record. As a trader, I find concern that he plans to eliminate 1256, the 60/40 tax status for futures traders, raise taxes on capital gains from 15% to 28% and remove the cap on self employment taxes from 105k to infinity.

I think you've had enough Kool Aid for one night Saxon.

 

[saxon]

Maverick,

I'd have an easier time taking you seriously as a trader if you didn't have this mindset that so many on ET have that "It MUST be true. Everybody says so...".

Try thinking for yourself. It will really help your trading.

 

[saxon]

Quote from bigarrow:

Never mind I found it.

Q: Aren't the labels "liberal" and "conservative" open to interpretation?

Green: Yes. On some matters, most people would agree on what constitutes a liberal position or a conservative position. On other matters, it's not as clear-cut...

So it's pretty much what they decide it is. Typical partisan BS. Using the real meanings of the words liberal and conservative, neither one is all good or all bad. The names liberal and conservative for political descriptions could be just accurate using the words dog and cat.

Excellent point, bigarrow!

Yeah...sorry I got sucked into the liberal vs. conservative thing, since I don't consider myself either of those as they are popularly construed.

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from saxon:

No Maverick...YOU need and the other parrots need to do your research, cause all you guys seem to be able to do is quote me the The National Journal ratings.

I, on the other hand, have actually checked Obama's voting record, and I see nothing ultra-liberal about it.

Once again, what we have here is a case of "Maybe if I repeat a charge enough times, it will magically become true."

It won't.

obama is for socialized medicine, gun control, high taxes on the "rich", illegal wars(pakisan... and voted to fund iraq), and open borders along with a national ID.

call it what you like but that is globalist. and the definition of a globalist one could say is "anti-constitutionalist."

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from saxon:

Maverick,

I'd have an easier time taking you seriously as a trader if you didn't have this mindset that so many on ET have that "It MUST be true. Everybody says so...".

Try thinking for yourself. It will really help your trading.

Saxon I could give a rat's f*ck if you take me serious as a trader. I'll put my p&l against yours anyday. And don't pretend to know what my mindset is. I have also taken the time to see where Obama is on the issues and there is nothing remotely moderate about him. He is a far left liberal. Not a communist. But a far left liberal. I don't care what everybody says about him. The media has propped him up as a celebrity and you seem to have been taken in by his "hope and change" speech. It's as if you have never seen a previous election before Saxon. Everyone from FDR to Bush made the same bullshit claim. They were all about hope and change. Stop drinking the Kool Aid.

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from Maverick74:

Saxon I could give a rat's f*ck if you take me serious as a trader.

you had to go there didn't you? LOL

saxon has no clue about the real political issues... he is an oprah moderate.

 

[saxon]

Quote from Maverick74:

Saxon I could give a rat's f*ck if you take me serious as a trader. I'll put my p&l against yours anyday.

A "legendary" prop shop trader, eh?

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from saxon:

A "legendary" prop shop trader, eh?

What's wrong Saxon? You have nothing to say about your boy Obama? Come on bro, that's all you've got? Why don't you name one thing he has done since he has been in office. Just ONE. Step up to the plate big guy, I'm lobbing you a pitch right down the middle for ya. You're on the clock.

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from Maverick74:

What's wrong Saxon? You have nothing to say about your boy Obama? Come on bro, that's all you've got? Why don't you name one thing he has done since he has been in office. Just ONE. Step up to the plate big guy, I'm lobbing you a pitch right down the middle for ya. You're on the clock.

i can, i can, i can, i can..... he ummm... voted to continue the illegal Iraq War.