Brittney Griner Sentenced To 9 Years In Russian Prison Colony

It is about messaging. “No matter what stupid-ass mistakes you make in a foreign country, your friends at the DNC have your back”. If you are a Black, woman, LGBQ+ that is. This is while other Americans already convicted of similar crimes having been sitting in jail, including a teacher.

Let’s see what Viktor Bout, the arms dealer in the proposed trade for Britney was charged with before he was tried and convicted in a system where a defendant’s guilt must be proven:

1. Conspiracy to kill US Nationals (18 USC ch. 2332b).
2. Conspiracy to kill US officers and employees (18 USC ch. 1114).
3. Conspiracy to acquire and export a missile system designed to destroy aircraft (18 USC ch. 2332g).
4. Conspiracy to provide material support or resources to a designated foreign terrorist organization (18 USC 2339b).

According to Wikipedia.org, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout

Bout's network allegedly delivered surface-to-air missiles to Kenya to be used to attack an Israeli airliner during takeoff in 2002.[52]

Bout is thought to have been discharged from the Soviet Army upon its dissolution in 1991 with the rank of lieutenant colonel, whereupon he started an air freight business. Other sources state he was a major in the GRU, an officer in the Soviet Air Forces, that he graduated from a Soviet military intelligence training program, or an operative of the KGB.[2][6][19][23]. So Bout may be effectively helping Russia carry out its geopolitical ambitions

In 2004, Bout and Chichakli set up Samar Airlines in Tajikistan to conduct money laundering activities and protect assets from authorities.[51] Bout is suspected of supplying weapons to numerous armed groups in Africa in the 2000s, particularly in the Democratic Republic of the Congo during the Second Congo War. He may have employed some 300 people and operated 40 to 60 aircraft.[24]. Sounds like a fairly extensive operation with the side benefit for a Putin disclaimer, “It’s not my dog”.

Bout's strategy of constantly moving location, owning numerous companies, and frequently re-registering aircraft made it hard for authorities to make a case against him. He has never been charged for the alleged African arms deals to which he owes his notoriety.[2][40][55] During Bout's reported operations, he is believed to have lived in various countries, including Belgium, Lebanon, Rwanda, Russia, South Africa, Syria, and the United Arab Emirates.[24][35][53][56][57. So Bout is a dangerous man who is hard to catch. Given the state of relations between Russia and the US right now, if nothing else, do we really want this guy up and running again?

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Now let’s review Brittany. She violated a drug law of a foreign country and is subject to their legal system. While the punishment Britney received may be deemed harsh by our standards, it seems reasonable to attempt to negotiate a “More fair” outcome on her behalf. The US, with its extensive tourist and business base, has leverage that can be used to accomplish this. The last thing most countries want is for the US state department to restrict travel of high spending US citizens to their country. Even now, with Russia under sanctions, Russia is likely looking forward to trade being normalized and might be responsive to a offer reflecting our strong negotiating position. Hell, even I would be open minded about exchanging a couple of cooperating Russians involved in financial crimes for Brittney.

Every American and NATO member citizen killed as a result of Viktor Bout’s release would fall upon the Biden Administration who in effect traded a message to their base for American and American Allies’ lives. Another message the Biden Administration is sending, albeit unintentionally, is the US is unwilling to accept any losses in maintaining the geopolitical status quo. Being involved against the world’s second largest military machine means there will be losses, yes?

Should the Biden Administration agree to exchange Viktor for Brittney, perhaps we the people will need to deliver a message of our own in upcoming elections. A message that when it comes to our safety, all American lives matter. By the way, where was the Biden Administration in regards to other Americans detained well before Brittney, who are in similar circumstances as her in Russia, again?
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Let’s see what Viktor Bout, the arms dealer in the proposed trade for Britney was charged with before he was tried and convicted in a system where a defendant’s guilt must be proven:
1. Conspiracy to kill US Nationals (18 USC ch. 2332b).
2. Conspiracy to kill US officers and employees (18 USC ch. 1114).
3. Conspiracy to acquire and export a missile system designed to destroy aircraft (18 USC ch. 2332g).
4. Conspiracy to provide material support or resources to a designated foreign terrorist organization (18 USC 2339b).


THAT'S what I'm talkin' bout! Stran- Ger!
TraderRob, You're Up!

Stranger, Can't wait for your take on 2000 Mules.
Have you seen it?
Here's a link for just in case...
Dinesh D'Souza's 2000 Mules full movie (free, and no registration required):
https://www.documentarymania.com/player.php?title=2000+Mules

and a book too it appears...
2,000 Mules: They Thought We'd Never Find Out. They Were Wrong.
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By the way, what's the transportation situation?
Any petrol problems?

I hope when she gets back she rips USA for taking so long to get her fixed.
Obviously a regular citizen would have had 2 or 3 high value prisoners exchanged even before a court case - backed up with threats against Russia. Pure bias against lbqtx etc.
 
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I don't follow her or her politics, but there are many of her ilk who piss on the country but want the American flag lowered to half-staff and the Marines sent in when they are in trouble.

While I don’t know about Brittany’s politics either, it sure seems the Biden Administration is playing politics here. We have seen this before in the Obama Administration where they were willing to exchange one apparently disgraced American for multiple convicted terrorists. Our politicians tend to be terrible negotiators who seem unwilling to use their leverage or patience in apparent hopes of a quick deal, no matter the potential cost.
 
what leverage.does biden have to get russia to release Griner. You think Biden is.going to.risk.any plans or policies to get a basketball player released? Or.any president for that matter....
 
what leverage.does biden have to get russia to release Griner. You think Biden is.going to.risk.any plans or policies to get a basketball player released? Or.any president for that matter....

Does not the apparent offer by the Biden Administration to exchange a major arms dealer for Griner suggest they are willing to diminish US geopolitical interests for party politics? The leverage the Biden Administration has over Russia I already talked about in my post. It is related to the normalization of tourism and business travel after the Russia-Ukrainian War ends. Further, Biden is currently resisting calls to designate Russia as a terrorist state. If Russia is designated as a terrorist state, secondary sanctions are likely to come in play against those countries that support Russia. Some countries will ignore and some will comply. The net result is Russia will be even worse off after being designated a terrorist state than they are now. Given that Russia’s prestige has taken a big hit, I can well imagine the Terrorist State designation as being powerful leverage over Russia. Admittedly, Nancy’s visit to Taiwan may undermine the potential effectiveness of that leverage to some extent.

So again, we are left with an administration that is focused on messaging for their perceived political gain at geopolitical cost, including putting American lives at risk instead of using other tools to achieve better outcomes. Next time, please read my posts more thoroughly rather than skimming and commenting, please.
 
Does not the apparent offer by the Biden Administration to exchange a major arms dealer for Griner suggest they are willing to diminish US geopolitical interests for party politics? The leverage the Biden Administration has over Russia I already talked about in my post. It is related to the normalization of tourism and business travel after the Russia-Ukrainian War ends. Further, Biden is currently resisting calls to designate Russia as a terrorist state. If Russia is designated as a terrorist state, secondary sanctions are likely to come in play against those countries that support Russia. Some countries will ignore and some will comply. The net result is Russia will be even worse off after being designated a terrorist state than they are now. Given that Russia’s prestige has taken a big hit, I can well imagine the Terrorist State designation as being powerful leverage over Russia. Admittedly, Nancy’s visit to Taiwan may undermine the potential effectiveness of that leverage to some extent.

So again, we are left with an administration that is focused on messaging for their perceived political gain at geopolitical cost, including putting American lives at risk instead of using other tools to achieve better outcomes. Next time, please read my posts more thoroughly rather than skimming and commenting, please.
An articulate dude like you and no youtube channel, no blog, no podcast? Wassamatta U?
Do some practice vids from the cab. Golden.
Swifty Lazar says call if anything you need. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Paul_Lazar
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And then there's US Marine Paul Whelan.....left all to himself , in a Russian Jail.


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The US is currently offering to exchange two Russians for two imprisoned Americans, Griner and former US Marine Paul Whelan, according to people familiar with the conversations. Whelan was convicted by a Moscow court in 2020 on espionage charges that he denies.
 
Does not the apparent offer by the Biden Administration to exchange a major arms dealer for Griner suggest they are willing to diminish US geopolitical interests for party politics? The leverage the Biden Administration has over Russia I already talked about in my post. It is related to the normalization of tourism and business travel after the Russia-Ukrainian War ends. Further, Biden is currently resisting calls to designate Russia as a terrorist state. If Russia is designated as a terrorist state, secondary sanctions are likely to come in play against those countries that support Russia. Some countries will ignore and some will comply. The net result is Russia will be even worse off after being designated a terrorist state than they are now. Given that Russia’s prestige has taken a big hit, I can well imagine the Terrorist State designation as being powerful leverage over Russia. Admittedly, Nancy’s visit to Taiwan may undermine the potential effectiveness of that leverage to some extent.

So again, we are left with an administration that is focused on messaging for their perceived political gain at geopolitical cost, including putting American lives at risk instead of using other tools to achieve better outcomes. Next time, please read my posts more thoroughly rather than skimming and commenting, please.


Russia does not care... that is why they sentenced Griner to basically the max penalty and invaded Ukraine and have not stopped... you think now they are going to slow down because of lost tourism?
 
Russia does not care... that is why they sentenced Griner to basically the max penalty and invaded Ukraine and have not stopped... you think now they are going to slow down because of lost tourism?

We don’t need to do anything. Perhaps in a couple of years the Russia-Ukraine war will be over and Russia will be looking for ideas to get the US State Department to allow US citizens to travel to Russia again. One possible idea they might come up with is “Hey, maybe the Americans will open up if we send their citizens back to them”. In the scenario just presented, can you see the potential power of patience and benefit of not speaking first in a potential negotiation? As a bonus, the moral hazard of caving in to every perceived wrong by another country is avoided. True, it sucks to be Brittney with the uncertainty and lost time. Perhaps she can serve as an example to others of the importance to learn and comply with other nation’s laws before visiting than being an ugly American.
 
Russia does not care... that is why they sentenced Griner to basically the max penalty and invaded Ukraine and have not stopped... you think now they are going to slow down because of lost tourism?
We don’t need to do anything. Perhaps in a couple of years the Russia-Ukraine war will be over and Russia will be looking for ideas to get the US State Department to allow US citizens to travel to Russia again. One possible idea they might come up with is “Hey, maybe the Americans will open up if we send their citizens back to them”. In the scenario just presented, can you see the potential power of patience and benefit of not speaking first in a potential negotiation? As a bonus, the moral hazard of caving in to every perceived wrong by another country is avoided. True, it sucks to be Brittney with the uncertainty and lost time. Perhaps she can serve as an example to others of the importance to learn and comply with other nation’s laws before visiting than being an ugly American.
There's something YUGE missing from this skimmed millimeter deep version of the facts.
IF Grinder had only half a gram of hash oil and
IF Blinken can't demand she be released and be respected in this,
Then Fire Blinken's ass Immediately and consider yourself lucky to see what a feckless loser he and anyone around him is.
Replace and repeat. Fuck trading. The soldier is a separate case. Pursue separately.

Back to Grinder:
Where's the Inventory of what Grinder is said to have been in posession of and charged with?
Has anybody seen this?
Any of you shithouse lawyers can show me that inventory?
Is that not the least bit suspicious to you?
Why the hell not?

This is not the entire story.
Prove me wrong.
 
There's something YUGE missing from this skimmed millimeter deep version of the facts.
IF Grinder had only half a gram of hash oil and
IF Blinken can't demand she be released and be respected in this,
Then Fire Blinken's ass Immediately and consider yourself lucky to see what a feckless loser he and anyone around him is.
Replace and repeat. Fuck trading. The soldier is a separate case. Pursue separately.

Back to Grinder:
Where's the Inventory of what Grinder is said to have been in posession of and charged with?
Has anybody seen this?
Any of you shithouse lawyers can show me that inventory?
Is that not the least bit suspicious to you?
Why the hell not?

This is not the entire story.
Prove me wrong.

Of the millions of tourists and business travelers to Russia in 2021 and early 2022, what was it about the defendants “Chosen” by Russia to be prosecuted? Could it be as simple as Russian Customs discovering contraband during an inspection?
 
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