Bright Trade

From http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=4843 a few years ago:

Posted by Don Bright on 04-03-02 09:20 PM:

Our top traders...

Our 6 and 7 figure income traders make between 1 and 3 cents net (with a cost of around .7 per share, no tickets, and no ECN fees, with 100% payout).

The "casual trader" may make more per trade, but less in actual income.

Payouts should never be less than 30% for anyone, ever. Our "backed traders" usually start at 50% and go to 95%.

These numbers can be confusing, so as I said in your PM, feel free to call for details.

I thought I saw something more recent, but I'm having a hard time locating it. I recall seeing the same number,s though.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Did Don skip over all my posts? Hmm. :D

I guess there was nothing to refute.

I'm sorry Mav, I'm more than happy to respond to anything you have to say...right now I have 40 colleges students in the main trading room waiting for me...please re-post anything you like.

Don
 
Quote from Maverick74:

If that is true then they are definitely churning. Although that number seems very low. If their best guys are only making .02 a share, they are marginally profitable at best.

You know something...the millionaire traders from the "old days" were keeping 2-3 cents, paying .5 to .8 or something similar...I just don't understand the fact that no one tries to keep up to date...our business changes, we change...can't get lost in the past...if you keep 80% of your gross, then great,....if you keep half of a bigger number....maybe even better...

McD pays a lot for hamburger...but without hamburger, not a penny to be made....

And, you are all welcome to simply go ahead and start your own trading firm...then we'll talk next year....(be careful what you wish for).....we are safe, honest, secure, and still probably the best there is...(said with all humility, seriously)......

All the best,

Don
 
Quote from Don Bright:

I'm sorry Mav, I'm more than happy to respond to anything you have to say...right now I have 40 colleges students in the main trading room waiting for me...please re-post anything you like.

Don

No worries Don. Go after the young ones are ya?

Get them young and early. :D


Don do you recruit at playgrounds? Just kidding. :D
 
Quote from Don Bright:

we are.....still probably the best there is...(said with all humility, seriously).

Don

Ummmm....No (said with equal humility, seriously).

:D
 
Quote from Maverick74:

No worries Don. Go after the young ones are ya?
Don do you recruit at playgrounds? Just kidding. :D

Great. Now they're going after college kids saddled with school loans and asking them to cough up a $10K-20K "performance deposit". Playgrounds are probably next!
 
And, you are all welcome to simply go ahead and start your own trading firm...then we'll talk next year....(be careful what you wish for).....we are safe, honest, secure, and still probably the best there is...(said with all humility, seriously)....../
Your humility comes off almost aggressive.


I think part of the point may be that your "adapt or die" slogan may be applicable to "old-school" business models as well. At least one of the responders, riskarb, proves every day in his journal that he's in no need of "starting his own trading firm".

You always have perfectly timed excuses for not responding to someone punctually and then throw in some sort of marketing quip at the end. Just so you know, very annoying.


--Sorry, got to go...have 20 GS prop traders in the other room outlining their edges for me w/ powerpoint--
 
Quote from Don Bright:

we are safe, honest, secure, and still probably the best there is...(said with all humility, seriously)......

The best daytrading firm? Not quite. Maybe the best at overeating! LOL
 
I hope you guys are enjoying yourselves as much as I am on this particular thread, LOL.

1. Our college classes are continuing education, and are certainly not a "recruiting" venture....we get "paid" about $100 by the local college to teach a 5 week class. This is our way of "giving back to the Community" - trying to help keep people away from "brokers, advisors, and all the rest of the financial industry who are completely unnecessary". We teach a couple of hundred people every year (about 7 years now about research, investing, derivatives, retirement funds, and all the rest.....from a perspective of someone who is not a retail broker or "advisor" - meaning that they couldn't give us their money if they wanted to. We started doing this when we found that most of the teachers at the college and university level know very little about the markets, much less trading at this level...and most are simply retail brokers looking for clients.

2. We do have recent graduates who have chosen to get involved in their own trading business...and I'm actually quite proud of most of them...making money from the get-go, good attitudes, very respectful and happy. We allow for special programs, match funds with some, all the rest.

3. The high volume "seasoned traders" who have returned from other firms (for various reasons), and who have chosen us over the other couple of firms, seem to be quite happy with their overall package.

I'm glad that you guys are content with whoever you're trading with....After nearly 30 years in the industry I've learned that it's really a good idea to keep friendly and respectful with everyone involved, from clerks to CEO's...you never know who's going to be working for/with whom.

... you might notice that I have done my best to help those who ask without caring where they clear or who they trade with.

We do our best, knowing full well that we can't be "all things to all people" .........

Perhaps some of you can join us for our retreat coming in October...have a little "inter - firm" fun, golf, poker etc. And, btw, there is no "profit" in this venture for BT.....(figured I better point that out up front, save you guys a bunch of typing, LOL).

(Not sure what kind of "marketing quip" to insert here, and I certainly don't want to annoy anyone, so bye for now).

Don

:)
 
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