Brexit - The aftermath

[felixbocharov]

This was all known by Leave side before the vote. Some job losses are inevitable. That's why I wrote that there is no evidence of Leave voters changing their mind. On the contrary, the reaction of EU officials will likely harden opinion of all voters that leaving the EU is best choice for UK. The people still making noises in London, Scotland and the media are those that never wanted to leave the project in the first place. Some short term volatility is a necessary cost for independence. EU officials were never going to make it easy, though the childish reaction is somewhat surprising..they do seem really keen to exact revenge on the UK, I'll give you that..

As for Scotland, that's not a priority, and with current low oil price it's not certain how a referendum would go. Ultimately if the Scots want to join the Eurozone that's their decision, during the last referendum they were not too keen on signing up to the Euro, which is a requirement for new EU members.

I am sorry, but it's a lot of words, but so little facts. Independence... it's a funny word, I would prefer EU officials over Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage - two idiots, they brewed this referendum only because they wanted to take over the country. On the second day Farage confirmed that most of the campaign was based on a lie.

 

[benwm]

I am sorry, but it's a lot of words, but so little facts. Independence... it's a funny word, I would prefer EU officials over Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage - two idiots, they brewed this referendum only because they wanted to take over the country. On the second day Farage confirmed that most of the campaign was based on a lie.

Nigel Farage isn't even in the government, and he lost his seat as an MP last year, so he's not going to be involved. He wasn't even in the original Leave campaign. There was misinformation on both sides but I don't see people who voted Leave changing their minds based on what has been revealed since the vote, which is what you originally wrote. I would prefer an elected MP versus an unelected EU official. Which means Boris Johnson or whoever is the new Conservative leader will need to call a general election to get a mandate from the country. As others have said, let's agree to disagree.

 

[benwm]

In any case, it seems unlikely now that Boris Johnson will be next Conservative leader. His odds widened considerably today after a private email was leaked last night and general concern amongst fellow MPs as to his suitability for role. I expect the next PM will be either Teresa May (odds on favorite) or Andrea Leadsom (I placed a small bet on her at 12/1).

Edit - Boris Johnson now ruled himself out of running.

 

[felixbocharov]

Nigel Farage isn't even in the government, and he lost his seat as an MP last year, so he's not going to be involved. He wasn't even in the original Leave campaign. There was misinformation on both sides but I don't see people who voted Leave changing their minds based on what has been revealed since the vote, which is what you originally wrote. I would prefer an elected MP versus an unelected EU official. Which means Boris Johnson or whoever is the new Conservative leader will need to call a general election to get a mandate from the country. As others have said, let's agree to disagree.

If a person is not elected it does not mean that he or she will serve worse than a populist.

 

[ironchef]

It is like the US tells Canada that they have to accept anyone from the US who wants to emigrate, live and work in Canada unconditionally.

The EU is a bully. They only imposed those conditions selectively on countries they can bully or desirable countries. I don't see them imposing the same conditions on the US-EU free trade agreement. Or have mutual reciprocity of the same with Turkey and other Eastern European countries that are non EU?

I know it will be a few tough years ahead for UK but it is a great nation with proud histories and very resourceful citizens and will come through fine, just like during the dark days of the second world war.

I am actually happy for the Brits to take back their independence.