BREAKING: WSJ Reports White House Found No Corroboration of Allegations Against Kavanaugh

"Kavanaugh committed further perjury in his testimony in front of Congress when he misstated that he was of legal drinking age in July 1982. Maryland raised the drinking age from 18 to 21 in January 1982. Quoting from a WaPo article of the day, "anyone who turns 18 after July 1 would have to wait three years to drink. Anyone 18 years old before July 1 could continue to drink legally." Brett Kavanaugh's birthday is February 12, 1965. He didn’t turn 18 until the following February."

If you have an open mind and facts matter then,
Via Joel Beinin:

"Here are some of the major lies that Kavanaugh has told:

1. He lied about Devil's Triangle. A Devil's Triangle is two different kinds of sexual acts, involving either a threesome, or three types of sexual intercourse with one woman in one night. It is not a drinking game. He lied about this several times and his classmates have called him out.

2. He lied about "bouf," which refers to anal intercourse, and not flatulence. He doubled down on this lie several times during testimony.

3. He lied about "Renata Alumnius." That referred to him going on a date with the purported class "slut." It was not about being her friend (and she recently said she was horrified by his yearbook references.) His testimony directly contradicts a poem about Renata written by one of his close friends found in the same yearbook he refers to himself as a Renata Alumnius, portraying Renata as a cheap and sleazy date.

4. He lied that the "Beach Week Ralph Club," which refers to vomiting from drinking at a traditional beach week (which all the schools around here have--we all know the expression). He lied and said it referred to his weak stomach.

5. He lied under oath about not watching Ford's testimony. Today. Witnesses saw him watching it. The Wall Street Journal reported he was watching it with others in the Senate's Dirksen Office Building. There are many press stories on this.

6. He lied about not knowing about stolen emails from the Democratic members of the judicial committee. He knew the emails were stolen and confirmed it in the emails the Judicial Committee republicans tried to suppress. The Washington Post gave him three pinocchios for this lie.

7. He lied about witnesses supporting his claims. They did not support his claims as he characterized their testimony. They generally supplied brief statements through lawyers about not remembering the party. This was no testimony. This was no independent investigation.

8. More specifically, Ford and Kavanaugh's mutual friend Leland Kaiser says while she does not remember that party, but she believes everything her friend Ford said about it. She has stated this to the press and it came up in testimony today.

9. Kavanugh lied about his drinking. He drank a lot in the last year of high school and college (and several witnesses say he drank a lot for years afterwards). Several friends of mine who specialize in alcoholism said he exhibited signs of having drunk before this hearing. He was referred to by his college roommate as a sloppy and belligerent drunk. We saw glimpses of that belligerence today. Dozens of his contemporaries have confirmed how aggressive he becomes with drinking.

10. He lied that never drunk on weekdays in the summer of 1982. In his own calendar, he referred to "skis," which he admitted refer to "brewskis," with Mark and PJ on Thursday July 1 in a calendar entry that matches closely Ford's account. Most of the people in that list were the same mentioned by Ford in her testimony. He drank. On that Thursday night. After working out.

11. He lied about Judge not remembering what happened. Six weeks after the incident, probably mid-August 1982, Ford reported seeing Judge at the Potomac Safeway in River Road near where we live. Local newspapers have confirmed that Judge worked there at the time Ford said. No one has refuted her testimony that Judge was "nervous" and had "turned white." The committee is still refusing to interview or depose or subpoena Judge.

12. He lied that "100 kegs or bust" did not indicate a lot of drinking in 1982-3. He was part of a group endeavoring to drink 100 kegs that year, and his best friend became a serious alcoholic and admitted to sexual assault resembling this assault during that period to his girlfriend. His girlfriend was also not deposed by the committee.

13. He lied about Trump in the first line of his first press conference as nominee. He lied about Trump doing more vetting than for any other Supreme Court nominee in modern history. In fact, Trump vetted much much less than other modern President's, admittedly working from short lists provided by two conservative think tanks, which he announced in advance he would limit his choice to. Several books have confirmed that Trump spent little time on the vetting.

14. He lied that he is "open to any investigation." He is not and is actively participating in blocking the testimony of eye witness Mark Judge, his girlfiend, and other participants. Judge is hiding out in a beach house on the eastern shore and Judge being interviewed by the FBI. Kavanaugh is actively involved in strategizing about evidence suppression, at all day strategy meetings with Trump's lawyers.

15. He lied about the nature of Mark's book. He said that both it was part of his therapy and coming clean as an alcoholic and drug addict, and called the book "fictional." It can't be both a testimonial of a recovering alcoholic and fictional at the same time.

16. He refuses to answer the question again and again about whether or not there should be an investigation and whether or not his friend Mark Judge should be questioned, further belying that he is "open to investigation."

17. He is lying about whether he was the "Bart O'Kavanaugh" in Mark Judge's book. He knows the drunken and vomiting "O'Kavanaugh" is him.

18. He is lying about never having forgot anything about the night after a night of drinking. There are several testimonials from classmates to this effect.

19. He is lying that there is a conspiracy against him and that Ford's charges are trumped up and part of that conspiracy. The best evidence of no conspiracy is how his high school classmate Gorsuch--they were one year about apart at Georgetown Prep--was subject to no such conspiracy, in confirmation hearings just months ago. Gorsuch is honorable. Judge is lying.

20. Kavanaugh supporter Whelan helped concoct the story of other men taking credit for assaulting Ford. Whelan has deleted all of his tweets after being challenged on the completely bogus stories he was advancing by his colleagues. The dissembling tweets are gone.

Senator Blumenthal quoted the legal principle "Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, which is a legal principle that dictates jurors can rule a witness to be false in everything if he says one thing that is not true."

If you believe any of the above is correct, you have to come to the conclusion that Kavanaugh is lying and should not be confirmed.

Senator Blumenthal quoting the legal principle "Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus may be the finest example of irony that I've ever read. Well done. Beyond that, all of your "lies" listed are more like different interpretations depending on where ones bias falls.
Bottom line, you guys have stretched your reasons for opposing Kavanaugh to the breaking point and beyond. The lack of evidence for doing so is staggering. The continuing, approaching two years now, temper tantrum continues. The left has lost all sense of proportion and rationality as a result.
 
Senator Blumenthal quoting the legal principle "Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus may be the finest example of irony that I've ever read. Well done. Beyond that, all of your "lies" listed are more like different interpretations depending on where ones bias falls.
Bottom line, you guys have stretched your reasons for opposing Kavanaugh to the breaking point and beyond. The lack of evidence for doing so is staggering. The continuing, approaching two years now, temper tantrum continues. The left has lost all sense of proportion and rationality as a result.


There is no bias in the first point. It is true or false.

Here's his testimony:

<snip>
FEINSTEIN: OK. That’s it. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

GRASSLEY: OK. Ms. Mitchell.

MITCHELL: Dr. Ford has described you as being intoxicated at a party. Did you consume alcohol during your high school years?

KAVANAUGH: Yes, we drank beer. My friends and I, the boys and girls. Yes, we drank beer. I liked beer. Still like beer. We drank beer. The drinking age, as I noted, was 18, so the seniors were legal, senior year in high school, people were legal to drink, and we — yeah, we drank beer, and I said sometimes — sometimes probably had too many beers, and sometimes other people had too many beers.

MITCHELL: What do you…

KAVANAUGH: We drank beer. We liked beer.
<snip>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...gh-hearing-transcript/?utm_term=.c23ee55af452



He implies that he was not engaged in underage drinking. It might be a nuance, but it's this type of nuance we expect a judge to impartially interpret.
 
No. You are not correct about what due process is. You have confused due process and due diligence.

You talk about something being incoherent, try reading what you wrote about Kavanaugh not getting due process.

And be careful Tom, you have a way of saying dumb shit and then getting angry and getting put on ignore.

Here’s a link to what due process is:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_process

First of all, I am using the same tone that you are using with me. I even used some of your phrasing. You are the one who is getting angry and saying "dumb shit" (your words).

Second, you are contradicting yourself. This is your quote that I responded to. You said yourself, that Kavanaugh did not get due process (highlighted in blue). You are accusing me of the very same thing you did -- confusing due process and due diligence. Read the second sentence (in bold) out loud. It is not coherent and appears to be a feeble attempt to insult me.
You’re right Kavanaugh did not get due process. Why you think that is relevant beyond you’re confused is up to you?

My statement of on the road to Iran actually is meant as a play on something tree used to say about Greece but it serves well in this case. It’s simple but I like it, it’s actually kind of snappy.
 
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Speaking to the point of a job interview.

His temperament in his testimony alone would dis-quality him.

He was accused of attempted rape and gang rape. It is understandable that he would get upset. If you want to review his judicial temperament, you can review his twelve years on the DC Circuit court. He has an exemplary record.
 
Kavanaugh did absolutely nothing wrong at the hearing.

He fought back like a man - just as Clarence Thomas did. And if he had not, he would have been dead in the water. If he wants a friend, he can get a dog.
 
On the Question of Judicial Temperament
COMMENTARY

By Michael Mukasey

Last Thursday, we watched Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh vigorously defend himself against very serious charges of misconduct that he has consistently and unequivocally denied, and for which no corroboration seems to exist.

In the wake of that hearing, we began to hear murmurs, which then escalated into much louder criticisms, that Judge Kavanaugh lacks the necessary judicial temperament to serve as a justice on the Supreme Court.


From 1988 to 2006, I served as a district judge in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, becoming chief judge in 2000. Additionally, I have worked with many judges throughout my career, in private practice and in government service. So the concept of judicial temperament is not an abstraction for me, but one that I have had to give considerable thought to.

As it turns out, Judge Kavanaugh is not a newcomer to these concepts either. He had not one but two hearings to become an appellate judge on the D.C. Circuit. His first hearing was in 2004, but his nomination was initially filibustered by Senate Democrats for partisan reasons, based on his role in President George W. Bush’s administration. He was re-nominated and eventually confirmed in 2006, but not before being subjected to another round of intense partisan attacks.

With the bitter taste of partisan acrimony still in his mouth, Judge Kavanagh began his tenure on the D.C. Circuit — considered by some to be the second-most important court in the country. He has served in that role with distinction and earned widespread respect across the ideological spectrum. It was no surprise to those of us who know him that Elena Kagan invited him to teach at Harvard Law School when she was dean there; or that he was recently introduced to the Senate Judiciary Committee by leading feminist lawyer Lisa Blatt; or that he has been praised by leading legal liberals such as former Obama Solicitors General Don Verrilli and Neal Katyal.


Importantly, his contentious confirmation to the D.C. Circuit did not distort his view of what a judge’s role is — to apply the law faithfully and impartially. Even when politically charged cases came his way, he did not shy away from his paramount commitment to the rule of law.

In 2009, Judge Kavanaugh was assigned to a three-judge panel in the politically charged case EMILY's List v. Federal Election Commission. Writing for the panel, Judge Kavanaugh’s opinion ruled in favor of the progressive and pro-choice interest group EMILY’s List in a case involving challenges to limits on campaign finance expenditures. Notwithstanding the brutal and partisan confirmation battle he had endured only a couple of years prior, Judge Kavanaugh – to no one’s surprise -- demonstrated his capacity to set politics aside and follow the law where it led him in deciding the case.

Judge Kavanaugh's critics ignore such evidence of independence and judicial temperament. They also ignore that our legal system recognizes that judges are real people who sometimes have intense positions, which is why judges don’t decide their own cases or cases in which they have a personal connection; instead they recuse themselves. Has Judge Kavanaugh given any reason to believe he would not recuse himself in any case in which his impartiality could reasonably be questioned, or one in which he had an actual conflict of interest? The answer is no.

Earlier this week, UCLA Law Professor Eugene Volokh documented his experience of being recruited along with other professors to sign a letter opposing Judge Kavanaugh on the basis that he lacks judicial temperament, and his response to the fellow law professors.


Professor Volokh wrote:

I hope that, before you sign on to the letter, you imagine how friends of yours would react if they were accused of a heinous crime that they did not commit -- and this was done on national (international) television, with undoubted partisan motivation.

Would I be “temperate” if faced with such public accusations? Courteous? Impartial? Would I really refrain from anything that might be called “inflammatory,” and be sure never to “interrupt”? Would you?

Professor Volokh raised a critical question — one that should be asked as we weigh this issue of temperament and as we stand in the midst of one of the most extraordinary confirmation battles in history.

In resolving this question of temperament, ultimately we must look to the most probative evidence of what Judge Kavanaugh will be like as a justice, and that evidence is his 12 years of service on the D.C. Circuit.

We must examine the endorsement of the lawyers who have appeared before him in court. On August 27, 2018, a bipartisan group of 40 Supreme Court advocates — the nation’s leading appellate lawyers — wrote a letter in support of Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination.

On the matter of temperament specifically, the group wrote:

“Those of us who have appeared before him appreciate his impressive ability to distill complex legal issues to their essence, the incisiveness of his questions, and the unfailing courtesy he extends to his colleagues and to counsel who appear before him.”

Likewise, the ABA’s Standing Committee on the Federal Judiciary gave Judge Kavanaugh a unanimously well-qualified rating for the position of associate justice of the Supreme Court. As explained in its report on Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination, the Standing Committee “reached out to 471 judges, lawyers, and professors for information regarding Judge Kavanaugh’s integrity, professional competence, and judicial temperament.” To its inquiry, the committee received 120 responses, and the process included interviews with those “who had personal knowledge of Judge Kavanaugh through their professional or personal dealings with him.”

Simply put, the evidence for Judge Kavanaugh's temperament is found in the hundreds of personal interviews conducted on the subject by those who know him personally, the accounts of those who have practiced law before him, and the thousands of people who have signed letters in support of his nomination. His supporters cover the ideological spectrum and have personally interacted with him in his decades of public service.

And then we should ask the question, if you were charged similarly serious crimes of which you believed you were completely innocent, how would you respond?

Michael Mukasey is a former federal judge and served as attorney general of the United States from 2007-2009.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a..._question_of_judicial_temperament_138257.html
 
I have not seen or heard anything about the FBI report but if the report stipulates that Dr. Ford's statement cannot be verified since there is no corroboration on the allegations against Kavanaugh then Judge Kavanaugh absolutely deserves to get his confirmation vote as soon as possible and as it was agreed upon by both Democrats and Republicans in Senate judiciary committee last Friday.

That is how a civil society functions. No If's and no But's.
 
I have not seen or heard anything about the FBI report but if the report stipulates that Dr. Ford's statement cannot be verified since there is no corroboration on the allegations against Kavanaugh then Judge Kavanaugh absolutely deserves to get his confirmation vote as soon as possible and as it was agreed upon by both Democrats and Republicans in Senate judiciary committee last Friday.

That is how a civil society functions. No If's and no But's.

what if said corroboration is due to outside influence of not chasing leads?
 
On the Question of Judicial Temperament
COMMENTARY

By Michael Mukasey

Last Thursday, we watched Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh vigorously defend himself against very serious charges of misconduct that he has consistently and unequivocally denied, and for which no corroboration seems to exist.

In the wake of that hearing, we began to hear murmurs, which then escalated into much louder criticisms, that Judge Kavanaugh lacks the necessary judicial temperament to serve as a justice on the Supreme Court.


From 1988 to 2006, I served as a district judge in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, becoming chief judge in 2000. Additionally, I have worked with many judges throughout my career, in private practice and in government service. So the concept of judicial temperament is not an abstraction for me, but one that I have had to give considerable thought to.

As it turns out, Judge Kavanaugh is not a newcomer to these concepts either. He had not one but two hearings to become an appellate judge on the D.C. Circuit. His first hearing was in 2004, but his nomination was initially filibustered by Senate Democrats for partisan reasons, based on his role in President George W. Bush’s administration. He was re-nominated and eventually confirmed in 2006, but not before being subjected to another round of intense partisan attacks.

With the bitter taste of partisan acrimony still in his mouth, Judge Kavanagh began his tenure on the D.C. Circuit — considered by some to be the second-most important court in the country. He has served in that role with distinction and earned widespread respect across the ideological spectrum. It was no surprise to those of us who know him that Elena Kagan invited him to teach at Harvard Law School when she was dean there; or that he was recently introduced to the Senate Judiciary Committee by leading feminist lawyer Lisa Blatt; or that he has been praised by leading legal liberals such as former Obama Solicitors General Don Verrilli and Neal Katyal.


Importantly, his contentious confirmation to the D.C. Circuit did not distort his view of what a judge’s role is — to apply the law faithfully and impartially. Even when politically charged cases came his way, he did not shy away from his paramount commitment to the rule of law.

In 2009, Judge Kavanaugh was assigned to a three-judge panel in the politically charged case EMILY's List v. Federal Election Commission. Writing for the panel, Judge Kavanaugh’s opinion ruled in favor of the progressive and pro-choice interest group EMILY’s List in a case involving challenges to limits on campaign finance expenditures. Notwithstanding the brutal and partisan confirmation battle he had endured only a couple of years prior, Judge Kavanaugh – to no one’s surprise -- demonstrated his capacity to set politics aside and follow the law where it led him in deciding the case.

Judge Kavanaugh's critics ignore such evidence of independence and judicial temperament. They also ignore that our legal system recognizes that judges are real people who sometimes have intense positions, which is why judges don’t decide their own cases or cases in which they have a personal connection; instead they recuse themselves. Has Judge Kavanaugh given any reason to believe he would not recuse himself in any case in which his impartiality could reasonably be questioned, or one in which he had an actual conflict of interest? The answer is no.

Earlier this week, UCLA Law Professor Eugene Volokh documented his experience of being recruited along with other professors to sign a letter opposing Judge Kavanaugh on the basis that he lacks judicial temperament, and his response to the fellow law professors.


Professor Volokh wrote:

I hope that, before you sign on to the letter, you imagine how friends of yours would react if they were accused of a heinous crime that they did not commit -- and this was done on national (international) television, with undoubted partisan motivation.

Would I be “temperate” if faced with such public accusations? Courteous? Impartial? Would I really refrain from anything that might be called “inflammatory,” and be sure never to “interrupt”? Would you?

Professor Volokh raised a critical question — one that should be asked as we weigh this issue of temperament and as we stand in the midst of one of the most extraordinary confirmation battles in history.

In resolving this question of temperament, ultimately we must look to the most probative evidence of what Judge Kavanaugh will be like as a justice, and that evidence is his 12 years of service on the D.C. Circuit.

We must examine the endorsement of the lawyers who have appeared before him in court. On August 27, 2018, a bipartisan group of 40 Supreme Court advocates — the nation’s leading appellate lawyers — wrote a letter in support of Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination.

On the matter of temperament specifically, the group wrote:

“Those of us who have appeared before him appreciate his impressive ability to distill complex legal issues to their essence, the incisiveness of his questions, and the unfailing courtesy he extends to his colleagues and to counsel who appear before him.”

Likewise, the ABA’s Standing Committee on the Federal Judiciary gave Judge Kavanaugh a unanimously well-qualified rating for the position of associate justice of the Supreme Court. As explained in its report on Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination, the Standing Committee “reached out to 471 judges, lawyers, and professors for information regarding Judge Kavanaugh’s integrity, professional competence, and judicial temperament.” To its inquiry, the committee received 120 responses, and the process included interviews with those “who had personal knowledge of Judge Kavanaugh through their professional or personal dealings with him.”

Simply put, the evidence for Judge Kavanaugh's temperament is found in the hundreds of personal interviews conducted on the subject by those who know him personally, the accounts of those who have practiced law before him, and the thousands of people who have signed letters in support of his nomination. His supporters cover the ideological spectrum and have personally interacted with him in his decades of public service.

And then we should ask the question, if you were charged similarly serious crimes of which you believed you were completely innocent, how would you respond?

Michael Mukasey is a former federal judge and served as attorney general of the United States from 2007-2009.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a..._question_of_judicial_temperament_138257.html


A thoughtful opinion, here’s a counterpoint:
http://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...me-court-justice-stevens-tells-florida-crowd/
 
what if said corroboration is due to outside influence of not chasing leads?

We are passed the "what ifs". Then Democrats should have done a better job defining the terms and parameters of the investigation.

I personally can't stand the guy. I think he was the worst SCOTUS nominee that I have seen in recent years. Many better conservative judges are out there.
 
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