BREAKING NEWS: NUCLEAR ACCIDENT JUST UPGRADED TO LEVEL 6, out of 7.

[BlackBison]

This whole situation does feel like it is being downplayed. Remember the banking problems and how long it took for them to be properly priced into the markets?

Remember the S&P actually rallied initially for a few months to touch a new all time high before starting its descent.

Personally I feel we might get something similar in the yen, with a contrarian push to new highs, followed by a large scale decline over the next year or two at least.

 

[athlonmank8]

Quote from Locutus:

I don't really see how this is possible. From what I understood if worst comes to worst they basically can do in 10 seconds what took weeks (or whatever) to create in Chernobyl, namely isolate the bad parts (whatever they are, I guess the core?).

Seems to me that they are not doing this only because it is sort of a "last resort" kind of thing and there are better ways to fix it which will ensure the plant won't have to be scrapped for the foreseeable future.

Also seems to me that most media outlets and posters are in a fit cos it looks scary, and obviously nuclear power problems are kind of scary, and there are like explosions and shit man! But they aren't really reporting the real risks. Nobody serious has claimed that this could become as bad as Chernobyl. It could become a slightly bigger problem than it is now, but nothing too drastic.

Anyway, I'm no expert, but it seems to me that people are overstating the worst case scenario.

Exactly.

 

[benwm]

guys lets leave the blame game for another day, clearly there have been major mistakes here, there are parallels with the financial crisis, BP spill i.e. humans cutting a few corners here and there..

but it's easy to get emotional at a time like this, we all want the same ending, so let's save that important discussion for another day (or a new thread)

I think there's some good info coming out of this thread

 

[athlonmank8]

Quote from Madison:

No they aren't you imbecile. These guys are the men hired for pittances by the greedy fucks that profited from this technology. And they are the ones volunteering their lives to try to save their communities while the executives are planning their escape routes.

If you have nothing useful to say, the least you could do is have the respect to shut up.

Oh, Cyborg is way too far gone to understand that. Guy isn't even in left field. He's off in the parking lot packing his crack pipe and crying because someone made fun of his dad.

 

[Cyborg2]

Quote from athlonmank8:

Exactly.

Just curious at what point do you think there will be a Breach of Containment

When 2 remaining reactors blow up (and they will)

Or will you still claim everything is fine
Do you believe market went up from open because there is no problem or because FED stepped in.

I think you are a moron.

 

[MaklodaSux]

Quote from Cyborg2:

Just curious at what point do you think there will be a Breach of Containment

When 2 remaining reactors blow up (and they will)

Or will you still claim everything is fine

There has already been a partial breach of containment. The torus underneath the reactor of unit #2 has a whole in it. Radiation is leaking out of the place. What's your point? Put those executives in there and have them take care of their shit instead of some poor guy who didn't have a say in any decisions.

 

[athlonmank8]

Quote from Madison:

At the very least there is managerial incompetence and very poor communication. Add to that the cultural views of hierarchy, duty, shame, etc. that may be influencing their public communications.

Another question is WTF Obama, Sarkozy, Merkel and leaders of other countries with highly-skilled engineering resources are doing, and why haven't they interceded. The whole world has a stake in this, and if the Japanese can't handle it, others have a duty to step in.

Exactly! Thinking the same thing. It's a never ending cycle because that's just the way things work .

Again..... Seems like Japan's taking one for the team while we bitch and play arm-chair quarterback. Where's the help for these guys? Why are we so complacent?

Right now, we're just going to play the "blame game" and then when it's all over tell them how stupid they are and how we would have done things different (which is pure bullshit). Apparently we're too obsessed with Twitter and Facebook to really care about our fellow man.

 

[Cyborg2]

Quote from MaklodaSux:

There has already been a partial breach of containment. The torus underneath the reactor of unit #2 has a whole in it. Radiation is leaking out of the place. What's your point? Put those executives in there and have them take care of their shit instead of some poor guy who didn't have a say in any decisions.

My comment on kamakazi workers wasn't right.
I apologize.

My point is some people still don't believe breach of containment happened even though it is clear that it did.

 

[athlonmank8]

Quote from Cyborg2:

My comment on kamakazi workers wasn't right.
I apologize.

My point is some people still don't believe breach of containment happened even though it is clear that it did.

Oh, there's a breach alright. None of us debate that.

here's what I'm upset about and maybe I gave you the wrong impression.

We're so worried about something that HASN'T happened yet, that we aren't taking the time to help our fellow man with something that IS happening and that they obviously need help with.

Japan's getting their asses reamed, there's 50-70 SELFLESS guys that are probably going to die when they leave that plant, meanwhile all we're doing is worrying about when the next shipment of potassium iodine is coming in, just in case that shit makes it this way.

When they're done dying (THUS preventing anything from happening to us) we can resume our normal lives as if nothing ever happened. Apparently society as a whole is done caring about anyone else.

People are pissed about nuclear fallout and Japan for letting this happen? In case they forgot, japan got hit with a 9.0 earthquake and then a Tsunami (which swept away the diesel generators). None of this is their fault.

 

[blackjack007]

Quote from swiftmike99:

Since these plants are usually located by the water why can't they locate the reactors few meters under the sea/lake level and in case of meltdown have pipes that can be manually opened flood the reactor with continous lake water. Of course in case of eathquake the pipe could get broken so maybe have 2 pipes?

you'd still need electricity to run pumps to circulate the water. stagnant water isn't enough to cool the fuel rods