Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro tests positive for Covid-19

[Turveyd]

At the end of the day...the damage will reveal how prepare we were no matter the statistics.

Like I said recently to you, keep the box of medical face masks and N95s...this is not over and I strongly believe the ignorance will continue even if a 2nd wave hits. People are going to party all the way into a 2nd wave...

wrbtrader

Which state do you live in ???

UK practically over already, deaths are small compared to the size of the country, it'll pass by and everyone will be, nobody died, nobody got badly ill, a mate of a mate of a mates dad died but that's about it, really are worrying too much.

 

[Turveyd]

Are you still screaming about those 0,1 death rates in every thread that has the word Covid in it Turveyd? Others pointed out several times that the real death rate is estimated to be around 1,5% to 2% based on facts.

I pointed out to you several times that this death rate is only valid as long as the medical system is not flooded. If all beds are occupied that death rate will go up.

It's getting boring man, everybody by now knows your personal believe is the media make everything up and only 85+ sick people will die even if we don't do anything. You never produce valid sources and every time your numbers are called out to be wrong you just throw out some other wrong or out of context numbers. Followed by calling everyone idiots because they can't see the truth like you.

Please prove me wrong and produce a legitimate source for those 0,1% death rate numbers.

I do and you ignore, fed up of doing that, you don't understand logic, so came to the conclusion your just a TROLL!!!

Grow up!!

News today is it's Airborne and if the lockdown lets you into a shop then the lockdown is pointless, thoughts ??

 

[Turveyd]

I pointed out to you several times that this death rate is only valid as long as the medical system is not flooded. If all beds are occupied that death rate will go up.

No really, FFS kinda obvious, but UK at peak only got to 25% on our shitty systems capacity, Italy it over extended, still only 0.06% death rate.

Stop spreading pointless fear and believing everything your told, realise your being lied to for reasons I don't understand still and grow up!!

 

[hoffmanw]

.... They shut off their border with China when WHO was still declaring that the risk of infection from the virus is very slow..

Don't assume anything. The origin of the virus is not known.

There were couple studies published from universities in Europe couple weeks ago shown the virus might have originated from Spain or Italy. The virus showed up in Europe couple months ahead of China. It was brought to China in December 2019. Since China population especially Wuhan is so dense, it has spread very quick.

The virus in US traced to the same strain from Europe.

 

[trading_jean]

I do and you ignore, fed up of doing that, you don't understand logic, so came to the conclusion your just a TROLL!!!

Grow up!!

News today is it's Airborne and if the lockdown lets you into a shop then the lockdown is pointless, thoughts ??

Again, a lot of shouting but no proof or link. Could it be you just invented those numbers?

What you do is deliberate misinformation Turveyd. Not cool.

 

[Turveyd]

Followed by calling everyone idiots because they can't see the truth like you.

I call them idiots, cause there idiots, idiots with huge ego's piss me off, you can't teach them anything too stupid to learn and too much of an ego to accept they might be wrong.

Try acting like an adult and learn how to have a sensible debate without the snide little comments, maybe you might learn something.

 

[Turveyd]

Again, a lot of shouting but no proof or link. Could it be you just invented those numbers?

What you do is deliberate misinformation Turveyd. Not cool.

Okay, simple math's, you can do it!!

Deaths in Italy = 34,914
Population of Italy = 60,390,000
(D/P) * 100 = 0.057%

Now look at the chart closely cases and deaths....

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy

If there isn't a 2nd wave, that's IT, looking at that chart, do you think there will be a 2nd wave ?? Cause you'd of had it already, months out of lockdown there.

There are no links, anything not following the we are all going to die PC party line is quickly removed.

 

[Turveyd]

Again, a lot of shouting but no proof or link. Could it be you just invented those numbers?

What you do is deliberate misinformation Turveyd. Not cool.

Incapable of listening aren't you, here is the recent events of today, maybe they'll wake you up.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53320155

80% of peoples tested positive had no symptoms.

The Airbornes been pulled from CNN and BBC already FFS.

Old link still worked thankfully, copying that.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/08/health/airborne-transmission-of-coronavirus-who/index.html

This is why weak lockdowns don't work, cause it's mainly being spread in shops, if you can still go into shops with aircon / heaters then it'll remain airborne as explained, UK's lockdown barely slowed it down.

understand, or just a Troll ??

 

[trading_jean]

No really, FFS kinda obvious, but UK at peak only got to 25% on our shitty systems capacity, Italy it over extended, still only 0.06% death rate.

Stop spreading pointless fear and believing everything your told, realise your being lied to for reasons I don't understand still and grow up!!

I have no idea how full the hospitals were in the UK, but the whole point of the lockdown was exactly to make sure the capacity was sufficient. Without the lockdown more people would have needed medical care, and in many countries hospitals were pushed to their limits. Without lockdowns on the initial wave many more would have died that were saved today.

The 0,06% death rate doesn't support your 0,1 death rate number unless you insinuate at least half of the Italian population was already infected. Which is not the case at all.

I AM critical about data and sources of information. Hence my critical questions to you.

Based on what is known at this point I agree there is no reason to panick and I have stated this already a couple of times to you. I am not spreading fear but I do believe we should avoid getting into a situation where the health care system cannot cope anymore. Even if that hurts the economy. Hopefully we can achieve that without hurting the economy too much from now on.

 

[Turveyd]

I have no idea how full the hospitals were in the UK, but the whole point of the lockdown was exactly to make sure the capacity was sufficient. Without the lockdown more people would have needed medical care, and in many countries hospitals were pushed to their limits. Without lockdowns on the initial wave many more would have died that were saved today.

The 0,06% death rate doesn't support your 0,1 death rate number unless you insinuate at least half of the Italian population was already infected. Which is not the case at all.

I AM critical about data and sources of information. Hence my critical questions to you.

Based on what is known at this point I agree there is no reason to panick and I have stated this already a couple of times to you. I am not spreading fear but I do believe we should avoid getting into a situation where the health care system cannot cope anymore. Even if that hurts the economy. Hopefully we can achieve that without hurting the economy too much from now on.

Your repeating what your told, without thinking for yourself, UK peak was 25% of health care and already past the peak before lockdown would of kicked in.

0.06% is less than 0.1%, 0.1% is an average as some US states higher, UK 0.07%, is 0.06% not better for you ?? confused.

Nobody is getting into a position where the health care can't cope, US is more of a no insurance and bad credit rating so no treatment related high death rate I bet, thinking NYC Vit D defficent so hoping other stated don't do so bad.

Look at the other side, the damage done and deaths from lockdown?? or you not capable of such ??

UK Hospitals where literally empty as nobody wanted to go near there near the peak, just a few wards with Covid patients, none of the 16,000 ICU beds that where built where used.

I'm against scaring everyone to death, for no reason, I'm against the mental damage that is being done to all, especially kids, thankfully my kids are brought up none snowflake so there bored, but all good 1's schooling is messed up but hey!

Mates kid brought up snowflake to the max, hasn't left the house in 4months at all, doubt she ever will again, stupid mate with mental issues.