BP is gone. Under 5 in 12 months

yeah, exuberance, I know I know ;-)

Everyone gets what they deserve.

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asiaprop....just like their estimate was 5000 barrels a day our estimate is 20billion...
 
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you still dont get my point at all. The precise reason, why BP agreed to this "deal" (and this is far from hammered out in terms of details), is because the American legal system is absolutely unpredictable. Many lawsuits could be dismissed and you get away with 5bn or on the other hand you may be in for a lot more simply because funny lawyers think someone's economic situation in Wisconsin was affected by this oil spill. Also, dont you find it funny how some shrimp fishermen always bitch how they hardly make a living yet suddenly they all seem to earn 100k plus and suddenly all the fishermen who go out got sick and had to return back home. LOL. Please dont make me laugh hysterically.

You're still not citing any facts.
One more time: the markets are indicating distress. One market participant is pulling in their risk on BP, and there are probably others doing the same thing, without going public on it.
Those are actions, by folks with money on the line. All you've got is a lot of words.
The markets may be wrong, of course. Bofa may be wrong. If so, they'll pay for it, quite literally. Interestingly, it appears to be a chance they're willing to take.
Also:
1. The lowball estimate is now 30000 barrels. The most BP has captured is 15000 in one day. It's been going on for close to two months by now, and minimum will go on for two months more.
2. We're in hurricane season.
3. Finally, you've got to put the stuff someplace. Given how much there is, that's going to be a major headache.
You can go back to ranting about fishermen and the American legal system now.
 
You guys can argue about the end cost until you're blue in the face. The fact of the matter is we won't know the total cost for years to come. To say that $20 billion is approximate is just a guess and is not based on fact. To say that $20 billion is way too high is also just a guess and is not based on fact. Nobody is presenting facts because facts don't exist yet.
 
Your all idiots for debating if this >> then that >> costs this much >> no costs that much.

You won't know till its all said and done. Meanwhile your getting delicious moves up & down.

While you fools mentally masterbate. :]
 
I forgot asiaprop only position trades with big wads of cash from JPM.

He doesn't need to time things. :]

Quote from [Proximo]:

Your all idiots for debating if this >> then that >> costs this much >> no costs that much.

You won't know till its all said and done. Meanwhile your getting delicious moves up & down.

While you fools mentally masterbate. :]
 
exactly. Why then is the administration asking for 20billion? And whats the deal for BP because it is not a capped amount and does not prevent others from suing BP? Whats the deal for BP? Am I missing something?

Quote from Kassz007:

You guys can argue about the end cost until you're blue in the face. The fact of the matter is we won't know the total cost for years to come. To say that $20 billion is approximate is just a guess and is not based on fact. To say that $20 billion is way too high is also just a guess and is not based on fact. Nobody is presenting facts because facts don't exist yet.
 
i dont day trade, you are right ;-)

But because you already showed curiosity, I am currently sitting 70% in cash, about 20% in longs, the rest in VXX as hedge. Not very exciting but then I am completely clueless about the next moves. I sometimes put money into select names on the back of front page stories, BP on the short side being on of them but I got out way too early because it has become a political coin toss, if some can still extract money out of this name then good, its not where my edge lies.

What excites me so much about BP is how emotions can drive one of the largest cap firm almost into bankruptcy. Yes, you heard it correctly, its not the spill that endangers BP its the mob on the street and white house that seems to know no limits.

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I forgot asiaprop only position trades with big wads of cash from JPM.

He doesn't need to time things. :]
 
Quote from asiaprop:

exactly. Why then is the administration asking for 20billion? And whats the deal for BP because it is not a capped amount and does not prevent others from suing BP? Whats the deal for BP? Am I missing something?

Stop bullshitting, scumbag.
I already showed that Bofa figures 28 bil is a conservative estimate.
You have presented exactly zero evidence to the contrary.
Since, at this point, you've shown no numeracy whatsoever, allow me to point out that 28 bil is 40% higher than the escrow account BP agreed to yesterday.
That doesn't mean that Bofa, or the Administration, is right. But if you're saying they're wrong, show it.
I've asked you to do this repeatedly. I'm still waiting.
 
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