boyscouts ... not for my child

Quote from TL Trader:

Uniforms? Lots of people wear uniforms that are not militaristic. Nurses, janitors, airline pilots, bus drivers, athletes...well you get the idea.

Scout Oath

On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.

Scout Law

A Scout is:
Trustworthy Loyal
Helpful Friendly
Courteous Kind
Obedient Cheerful
Thrifty Brave
Clean Reverent

I suppose I could see where some of this is uh, well..."objectionable".

I was a scout in the mid 70's. Some of my fondest memories growing up are of
scouting.

Among many others I earned both the first Aid and Lifesaving merit badges. Can I assume the PC police wouldn't object to those skills?
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From one scout to another . . . wonderful post!!
 
Quote from stock_trad3r:

LOL you can always take your child to communist camp. They still have it in the Pocono hills.
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looks like there are some more options than you can
imagine.
 
Quote from bluud:

Not exactly ... before I respect I have to see respect ... it's not like I am begging for others respect ... and so to wait ... you talk as if I consider them something worthy in the first place ... I just say if one respects me, in return of his understanding I will respect him
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That is the logic of the "corner". The logic of the "hood". I have no problem with that line of thought, it is detrimental to the holder of that value.
 
Quote from man:

i truly respect your experience and your point of view.
there are many absolutely wonderful things about scouting.
no doubt. i am just bothered by the uniform=dresscode,
the flagt admiration, the ranking system. seems to me
strikingly similar to army organisation. and i don't want
my child to be influenced that way early on. that's all.
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I was an ADC in college. You should locate the ADC in your area and get him the give you the schedule of the local training program. If you get interested and like it then check out the professional training at Schiff Scout Reservation Mendham, N. J. and some of the regional traing centers.

Dress codes are very common at a whole range of institutions and organizations. Prep schools and sports come to mind for me. For a while I wore stuff that my mom dyed for me since I didn't have a scouting outfit as did most others in our troop. It didn't bother me or anyone else.

The merit of merit badges is a truly grand thing for young people. I loved the weekly presentations at our troop meeting by the counselers. They created a great deal of interest. I made it a rule to never wear the neckerchief slide twice.

Funny to say but my GSA membership was in category 31. Leading up to '76, all GS councils participated in three year environmental projects. The girls came to Brym Marr every year asand on the 4th they were the ire five rows in Philadelphia. On the 5th they gave a Steuben Glass carrosel to the Queen as the US token of appreciation. A collection of their three year's efforts was written up in a book; the theme of the book was quotes from various GS's that illustrated that every individual counts in the interdepedence of the environment. The letters made up the title of the book I. E. which also stands for for example.

Talk about the girl scouts with your daughter after you get her a copy of the book to read. Almost anyone can identify with the quotes of the girls from every council in the US during the Bi Centenial.

Don't also keep her from going to prep school or participating in sports. It is very good to be allowed to belong.
 
I really doubt creativity or the spirit of individuality is stifled by constaints of society. I would venture a guess it is caused by parents reactions to a childs ambitions, lack of parental example, or as the individual gets older by their own lack of good judgement.
 
Consider this: Your parenting goals are to encourage your child to be creative, to think for herself, avoid competition, etc ... HOW?

By limiting her options and making decisions for her.


If she has an interest in pursuing scouting, by denying her the opportunity to join, you're denying her the chance to think for herself, lead, and you're setting YOURSELF up as her competition.


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH the progressive left ........ god love em ...
 
There's nothing wrong with protecting your children from religious indoctrination and child predators.

Unless of course, you're a pedophile.
 
Quote from bluud:

:D You are fucking funny ... you talk as if you are serious ... millions died for freedom ... haha ... they died in vain ... cause there is no fucking freedom ... ya you post freely ... but once the supercomputers come across a sentence that just sounds so fucking fishy ... and you keep posting those kinds of posts ... I wonder how many days it will take for you to end up in somewhere like guantanamo bay ... that is if you are lucky!
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once you established your IQ level, I gave up reading
 
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