boyscouts ... not for my child

creativity + no ambition = starving artist.



Quote from man:

you mix up quite a variety of issues. IMO we live in an
over-competitive society in a destructive sense of the
word "competitive". ambition is a wonderful thing and
it is very fine to have competitive games - yet i do not
find it positive for forming a character if you start with
that too early.
i would think that after a period of "i want i can"
there should come a phase of "we". now if you have
been trained since early childhood that you need to
be one and always one, you might find that not attractive
at all.

my child learned to calculate addition and subtraction
while teeth brushing. i simply tried to keep her busy
for two otherwise boring minutes. she learned quite
quickly, but it was a game situation, nothing ambitious
or competitive at all.

actually quite funny you are bringing this up so quickly.
i find overcompetitiveness and overambition the biggest
killers of creativity. which in my eyes is the biggest
gift of mankind.
 
everyone wants their kid to be a free spirit, not a follower or a conventionalist. as if the default opposite of "follower" is "leader". just keep them from being a follower and they'll be a leader, right? nah, MOST your "free spirits" grow up to be directionless PUNKS! without RESPECT for ANY convention or institution or authority :/
 
This is a great description of liberalism.


Quote from lovemygoat:

everyone wants their kid to be a free spirit, not a follower or a conventionalist. as if the default opposite of "follower" is "leader". just keep them from being a follower and they'll be a leader, right? nah, MOST free spirits grow up to be directionless PUNKS! without RESPECT for ANY convention or institution or authority :/
 
Whining about whiners, classic sputhead moment...

Quote from sputdr:

I feel sorry for you child.

Sadly there are people like you running around the town I live in trying to have dodge ball banned, fighting to stop score from being kept during athletic events and making sure there are no losers, EVERYONE IS A WINNER!!

We are becoming a nation of whiners, self indulgent narcists and entitlement feeling jerks.

You should move to Canada.
 
Classic response from a conformist regressive klannish...how very much like Hammity, Man Coulter, Bill O'Idiot and other orthodox klones...

Paint by number thinkers...

Quote from sputdr:

This is a great description of liberalism.
 
Lack of creativity + totalitarian thinking=Nazi, Communist, Big Brother, New World Order...you name it, if it smacks of conformity, you can be sure it is being promoted by the ruling class and their Kool Aid drinking blind followers...

Quote from sputdr:

creativity + no ambition = starving artist.
 
Quote from man:

yes, camping is fine.
yes, every day a good deed is fine.
yes, friendship is fine.
yes, having some discipline is fine.

unfortunately, i can't help it, i don't want uniforms, ranks,
flags and other military detail for my child. i think you can
get the pros without need to bear the cons. makes me
even more left than i already am, i know.


Since you are so far left, I wonder if you would be opposed to wearing a Mao suit. I bet you would rook marverous.
 
More conformity:

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<img src=http://www.cornermark.com/hiddenfolder/enemies/hezbollah_hamas_nazi_salute.jpg>

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The klannish of course confuse natural order, which is simultaneiously ripe with diversity, with conformity of thought...
 
Quote from man:

yes, camping is fine.
yes, every day a good deed is fine.
yes, friendship is fine.
yes, having some discipline is fine.

unfortunately, i can't help it, i don't want uniforms, ranks,
flags and other military detail for my child. i think you can
get the pros without need to bear the cons. makes me
even more left than i already am, i know.

Boy scouts was not much about militarization really. It was about a kid learning to DO THINGS when I was a kid. I would take the handbook when I was bored in the afternoons and learn to work with knots, I leaned to do geometry by measuring the height of a tree without climbing it, etc.

I see people all the time that CANT DO THINGS with their hands. They usually are huge trouble makers. One of them used to brag that he took more LSD than Timothy Leary, then he would get drunk and threaten to kill me. I wonder if there is sociological work to associate abilities to do things with suceess in life? I worked for a guy that had every merit badge available when he was a teenager, I'm talking Eagle Scout of eagle scouts. He was cool to work for, he realized I could DO THINGS and he let me and then I got fat raises year after year and he got all his work done. I have worked for people that can't do much of anything and they SUCK SO BAD THE GROUND AROUND THEM IS ALWAYS CLEAN. They are always political bastards that are worried way more about image than substance.
 
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