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"Bowling for Columbine"
- Thread starter nitro
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you're right. laws don't mean much without moral backbone in the people and in the leadership.
Quote from marketsurfer:
what do you recommend to be done ?? think about it, make guns illegal, think the criminals will obey ? confiscate ?? make guns uncool ?? too late, hollywood has already ruined that angle. what is the solution ?? anyone ???? i think it is too late to do anything...but who knows ??
best,
surfer
Quote from Gordon Gekko:
michael moore is annoying.
as if there's an epidemic of the columbine stuff. so maybe 10 kids per 5 years (in the entire country) attack their school. there are bank robberies all the time. it's just a different type of crime. crime happens all the time all over the place. this was just something new and it stunned the world.
for whatever reasons, these kids are just really pissed off and frustrated. eventually they reach their limit and act out in violence. you can't make everyone in the world happy. there are always going to be pissed off people and there's always going to be crime.
You missed the point of the documentary GG. His argument was that our society is screwed up by the gun culture, not that there are "too many" school attacks involving kids and guns. But I can understand why you think that Moore is annoying. Know it all's usually are and he can be pretty preachy when he gets going.
Quote from marketsurfer:
what do you recommend to be done ?? think about it, make guns illegal, think the criminals will obey ? confiscate ?? make guns uncool ?? too late, hollywood has already ruined that angle. what is the solution ?? anyone ???? i think it is too late to do anything...but who knows ??
best,
surfer
All you have to do is make it more difficult to get guns. And just to keep on message, when all you have to do is open an account at a bank and you get a free gun, that's pretty sad. We need to close loopholes and make sure that guns can't get into the hands of wackos (that haven't been background checked). And I don't care what anybody says about "assault weapons"... they have no place outside of the military (and swat). Handguns and Rifles, OK, automatic weapons and missile launchers, Not. All we need is a little bit of common sense and a little less lobbying from the NRA.
honestly, i have not seen it entirely, but i am familiar with michael moore and i've seen parts of it. i will be the first to admit i should not be commenting on something i have not really seen.
Quote from picknclick:
All you have to do is make it more difficult to get guns. And just to keep on message, when all you have to do is open an account at a bank and you get a free gun, that's pretty sad.
there is a higher rate of gun violence in New York City and D.C., where guns are prohibited, than in Vermont, where concealed-carry permits aren't needed, or in the vicinity of the bank where they were giving out free guns in the documentary.
but whatever side of the argument you're on, it was a well-made documentary, and worth watching...
Quote from lescor:
I thought it was a good show, but very one-sided. Hard to make a good counter argument though to some of the gun death statistics in America when compared to pretty much every other country in the world. It really is such a deeply ingrained culture, that I think most who haven't traveled abroad much don't even realize how wacko it is. Violent death by gunfire is relatively rare in most other countries.
Right, things are SO much better in England and Austalia, where guns are banned. Those two countries now enjoy the highest violent crime rate in the industrialized world, six times higher than the U.S. So keep ignoring the evidence and lying to yourself, fine with me.
Quote from richardSmack:
Right, things are SO much better in England and Austalia, where guns are banned. Those two countries now enjoy the highest violent crime rate in the industrialized world, six times higher than the U.S. So keep ignoring the evidence and lying to yourself, fine with me.
Oh, I forgot to mention that over 60% of robberies take place in England while people are home, compared to 10% in the U.S.
Enjoy, mate.
that was an interesting study and provided some good insight, but those are very misleading statistic. they do not relate to how many violent crimes are committed per capita, they relate to something quite different.
Quote from richardSmack:
Right, things are SO much better in England and Austalia, where guns are banned. Those two countries now enjoy the highest violent crime rate in the industrialized world, six times higher than the U.S. So keep ignoring the evidence and lying to yourself, fine with me.