Border Crisis Poll: Public Turns Against Obama, Democrats & Media

I have trouble understanding why any of this is the republicans' fault. Obama orchestrated it, but he didn't get the public reaction he expected.

I also fail to see why it is the republicans' repsonsibility to pass some bill to deal with it. All Obama has to do is rescind his illegal grant of amnesty to the so-called dreamers, which was a predictable magnet.

He could use his infamous pen and instruct the Border Patrol to turn all these people away at the border as well. He has shown on many other occasions that he doesn't view laws as binding on him, so why is he suddenly so concerned about the law that supposedly gives them all a hearing? That law was aimed at sex traffickers, not illegal immigrants. Furthermore, as Ann Coulter noted, that law expressly says it only applies to minors who lack relatives here. All these would be immigrants who say they have family here do not qualify by definition and can be turned away without a hearing.
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
I have trouble understanding why any of this is the republicans' fault. Obama orchestrated it, but he didn't get the public reaction he expected.

I also fail to see why it is the republicans' repsonsibility to pass some bill to deal with it. All Obama has to do is rescind his illegal grant of amnesty to the so-called dreamers, which was a predictable magnet.

He could use his infamous pen and instruct the Border Patrol to turn all these people away at the border as well. He has shown on many other occasions that he doesn't view laws as binding on him, so why is he suddenly so concerned about the law that supposedly gives them all a hearing? That law was aimed at sex traffickers, not illegal immigrants. Furthermore, as Ann Coulter noted, that law expressly says it only applies to minors who lack relatives here. All these would be immigrants who say they have family here do not qualify by definition and can be turned away without a hearing.
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You've never been to "the border", have you?
 
JamesL said:
There's an MRC guy on the street video where he asks the residents of DC to sign a petition supportive of keeping the immigrants in US. Most people signed it. He then asks who wants to sign up to house them - nearly everyone balked.

Cant find it on the mobile but if you search for it you can find it.
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Kinda like vast majority of those against abortions also not adopting the unwanted babies.
 
dbphoenix said:
You've never been to "the border", have you?
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You continue to confuse non sequiturs for actual logic.

No, I haven't been to the border. Sheriff Joe and Rick Perry have though.

Obama's orchestrated invasion has turned into a political disaster for the democrats. Even substantial portions of Obama's normal coalition of minorities and welfare recipients have deserted him. They are dumb, but not so dumb not to understand that more pople means less for them.

Democrat pols are loyal, I'll grant you that. Obama is leading them off a cliff, yet few have bailed on him. It reminds me of the '94 midterms when Clinton's tax increase, Hillarycare and the assault rifle ban infuriated voters and handed the House to Gingrich et al.
 
Wall Street Journal Editorial Scolds Republican 'Deportation Caucus'
By Igor Bobic
Posted: 08/02/2014 12:22 pm EDT

The Wall Street Journal editorial page excoriated Republicans on Saturday for positioning themselves as the party of maximum deportations.

House Republicans late Friday night had succeeded in passing two immigration bills -- one measure that would strip protections from the young undocumented immigrants known as Dreamers and a funding bill meant to address the influx of 57,500 unaccompanied minors who have crossed the U.S.-Mexico border illegally. Republican leaders pulled a previous funding bill on Thursday, the last scheduled day before the House's August recess, due to objections from conservatives that it didn't go far enough.

The Journal's sharply worded op-ed scolded the GOP "Deportation Caucus" for putting on a "screaming match on the floor in full view of the national media" and lamented the party's message to minorities ahead of the midterm elections.

"House Republicans may have scrambled enough on Friday to save themselves from a total meltdown. But this latest immigration debacle won't help the party's image, which is still recovering from the government shutdown debacle of 2011. A party whose preoccupation is deporting children is going to alienate many conservatives, never mind minority voters," the op-ed read.

The Journal's editorial page pointed out that the last-minute drama on the House floor drew attention away from the Senate, which was unable to marshal enough votes to move its own bill addressing the border crisis.

"This Democratic use of border children as midterm-election pawns should be the story, but instead the Deportation Republicans played into Mr. Obama's hands," the op-ed said. "Right on cue, the President held a press event on Friday at the White House that tattooed the GOP for refusing to solve the problem they claim is a crisis. The truth is that Mr. Obama doesn't even care if the border bill passes. What he really wants is the immigration issue to bash Republicans and drive Hispanic and other minority turnout in states like Colorado that could determine Senate control."

The op-ed also noted that House Republicans had finally come full circle -- by endorsing the message that failed GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney delivered in 2012.

"Readers may recall that the last Republican in an election year to support deporting immigrant children brought here through no fault of their own was Mitt Romney. A splendid voter attraction that was," the editors deadpanned.

Read the entire op-ed at The Wall Street Journal.
 
"In summary, an estimated 11.4 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the United States in January 2012[17]

Children

The Pew Hispanic Center determined that according to an analysis of Census Bureau data about 8 percent of children born in the United States in 2008 — about 340,000 — were offspring of illegal immigrants. In total, 4 million U.S.-born children of illegal immigrant parents resided in this country in 2009 (alongside 1.1 million foreign-born children of illegal immigrant parents).[18] These infants are, according to the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, American citizens from birth. These children are sometimes referred to as anchor babies by those opposed to this method of citizenship attained outside of the legal immigration process.[citation needed]




If only they had always lived in the real America.
 
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