BOOM: Obamacare Hits Milestone Of 6 Million

Per McKinsey 27% are first time insured .. and half of those have not paid premiums. So it would appear that 800K are people with health insurance for the first time. Out of 40+ million. Laughable.

Please link to this article where Mckinsey knows the data long before the deadline for signup is over.

Thanks.
 
And as noted in articles, it was fixed by 15 competent independent contractors who were brought in. It took them 6 weeks to do it.

But then the government made the foolish decision to not let them continue their work to fix the backend when the "major government contracting firms" protested - saying 'crisis' was over.

Well the crisis is now back - the backend manual processes are very expensive for insurance companies (and the government) when it all has to be done by hand on printed paper.

It wasn't hard at all to go directly through the insurer to buy health insurance.
 
Please link to this article where Mckinsey knows the data long before the deadline for signup is over.

Thanks.

Link was already posted on another thread. You obviously know zilch about Stats. I have 3 degrees related to Stats. McKinsey took the numbers to date and showed 27% were new enrollees and 1/2 of those had not paid premiums. So it's easy to extrapolate ... and that's very legitimate to do so.
 
It wasn't hard at all to go directly through the insurer to buy health insurance.

Yeah, I did that. But I bought a non-compliant plan I'm sure Odumbo would like to count all of us who re-bought our 'old' plans that avoid his useless coverage that we can never use.
 
Yeah, I did that. But I bought a non-compliant plan I'm sure Odumbo would like to count all of us who re-bought our 'old' plans that avoid his useless coverage that we can never use.

In my case the compliant plan was a better deal than the non compliant ones and much easier to buy, no medical history, looking up dates and doctors phone numbers and addresses, no trips to get blood work and a physical. It was a pleasant experience compared to the old way.
 
In my case the compliant plan was a better deal than the non compliant ones and much easier to buy, no medical history, looking up dates and doctors phone numbers and addresses, no trips to get blood work and a physical. It was a pleasant experience compared to the old way.

Unless I'm mistaken didn't you say you were healthy etc.? Hadn't had a complete physical in a while? If so, submitting 'old' medical history isn't a big deal at least based on my experiences. Or did you have some older thing in your history that might raise a red flag if you'd gone with a non-compliant policy? I assume you could have found a less expensive policy going the route I took unless you're getting a 80-90% subsidy.
 
Unless I'm mistaken didn't you say you were healthy etc.? Hadn't had a complete physical in a while? If so, submitting 'old' medical history isn't a big deal at least based on my experiences. Or did you have some older thing in your history that might raise a red flag if you'd gone with a non-compliant policy? I assume you could have found a less expensive policy going the route I took unless you're getting a 80-90% subsidy.

Yes I'm very healthy and active good blood work and blood pressure. I've had a chondroplasty on both knees and the last colonoscopy I had one benign polyp. Everything thing else is very good. The insurance broker said I'd probably get coverage through an old plan if I wanted it but it might get rated. Even without getting rated the prices were comparable to ACA plans, so I went with that and I'm glad I did. No subsidy here paying 100% myself. Face it DH for some the ACA is a good thing. Very few things in life are 100% good or 100% bad no matter how emotional you get.
 
No subsidy here paying 100% myself. Face it DH for some the ACA is a good thing. Very few things in life are 100% good or 100% bad no matter how emotional you get.

Sure, I'm positive that those getting major subsidies love Obamacare. People who are paying $50/month who are in their 50's are getting the deal of a lifetime. But .... a big part of my gripe is that we have no personal accountability. I eat healthy and exercise at least 6 days/week. Someone else my age, who is 80 pounds overweight, eats poorly, doesn't exercise would be quoted the same rates as I. That's inconsistent with other forms of insurance. If you're a good driver and I have 3 tickets for speeding and caused an accident I would pay higher rates. Why? Because I'm a higher risk. Same with health insurance. One big problem is how to differentiate people with legitimate pre-existing conditions versus those who developed them through their own lifestyle and choices.

I've paid every penny of my healthcare expenses since 1996 from premiums to any other out of pocket so I take issue with those who are now getting a free ride (or close to it) who have not taken responsibility for their choices relative to their health and well being.

Last, one size (policy) is not appropriate. Let consumers have a choice. 1/3 of the county is not overweight or obese and many of those are very healthy and fit. Allow high deductible, catastrophic policies to be a part of any offering. Funny how Odumbo and others say the kind of policy I have is 'lousy' or 'inadequate' yet with any policy under Obamacare our deductible would be an additional $2700 ($12,700) and premiums would skyrocket from $364 to $1000 or more per month. In this scenario most anyone would say the 'new' ACA policy is 'lousy' given the cost, the deductible and the actual coverage. In theory it could cost $11,000 more per year out of pocket.
 
DH your and my personal story doesn't mean anything. My positive story negates one negative story, so we cancel each other out on that one. We are in agreement on taxing bad health habits, don't think that will ever happen with Coke, Pepsi, McDonalds and all the other crap food companies out there fighting personal responsibility for the benefit of their profits. But the ACA is here and bitching and worrying will not change anything. The next election probably will not get rid of the ACA either.
 
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