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Bono's BS
- Thread starter Pa(b)st Prime
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It is okay to point out that there are individuals of any race who are both spoiled and deprived.
To reason to a conclusion for all members of a racial group on that basis is not rational though...
To reason to a conclusion for all members of a racial group on that basis is not rational though...
Quote from jem:
it okay to say the spoiled lazy rich kids, but its not okay to say what specs saying.
zzz I am not sure your response really tackles the issue I was pointing out.
It seem to me that we are allowed to generalize about negative aspects of the the groups in privileged positions but we are not allowed to make the same types of observations about other groups.
By the way, during the intros to the superbowl my 6 yr old asked why so many "dark" guys play pro football.
Is there a P.C answer for my son?
Is there a correct answer for my son?
Can we also observe other differences in race?
It seem to me that we are allowed to generalize about negative aspects of the the groups in privileged positions but we are not allowed to make the same types of observations about other groups.
By the way, during the intros to the superbowl my 6 yr old asked why so many "dark" guys play pro football.
Is there a P.C answer for my son?
Is there a correct answer for my son?
Can we also observe other differences in race?
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
It is okay to point out that there are individuals of any race who are both spoiled and deprived.
To reason to a conclusion for all members of a racial group on that basis is not rational though...
Anyone who's known a lot of black's will conclude that blacks are no dumber than whites.
Intelligence doesn't strongly correlate to success.
Some of the smartest traders I've known are broke.
Blacks as a group have low emotional IQ's. They're manic-depressive. Ever been to a black funeral? You've never seen such intense, public greiving. The slightest slight, stepping on their shoes, bumping into them on a crowded "L" can cause an eruption of gunfire.
Blacks are like the over the top comic who "says what everyone is thinking." Want to celebrate like crazy over a tackle, want to shoot the next guy who cuts you off, want to rape that hot, snotty chick down the hall, want to grab that bottle off the store shelf, JUST DO IT MAN!
Black murders are so random that police are having an increasingly difficult time solving them. The clearance rate in Chicago is down to 36%. It used to be that criminals killed in the commission of another crime. Now people kill because "he disrespected me."
The problem is that the generalizations of the poor groups suggest that the bad behavior is racial in nature, not a result of environmental conditions.
My answer to your son would be that those players are in the Super Bowl because they are on the best teams in the NFL.
We can observer that there are difference in the color of skin, sure.
However, to conclude that the color of their skin makes them necessarily a better athlete is false.
Are you old enough to remember when a black quarterback was unthinkable, because they were considered too dumb?
Or a black coach in the Super Bowl unthinkable, because they lacked the intelligence?
You might also point out to your kids that many of those "dark" athletes were extremely motivated to work hard as a means to achieve in life and lift themselves and their families out of poverty, that excellence in athletics at that level is not just physical talent alone. I would communicate to the kids the need for a drive to achieve excellence as the most important factor it in.
My answer to your son would be that those players are in the Super Bowl because they are on the best teams in the NFL.
We can observer that there are difference in the color of skin, sure.
However, to conclude that the color of their skin makes them necessarily a better athlete is false.
Are you old enough to remember when a black quarterback was unthinkable, because they were considered too dumb?
Or a black coach in the Super Bowl unthinkable, because they lacked the intelligence?
You might also point out to your kids that many of those "dark" athletes were extremely motivated to work hard as a means to achieve in life and lift themselves and their families out of poverty, that excellence in athletics at that level is not just physical talent alone. I would communicate to the kids the need for a drive to achieve excellence as the most important factor it in.
Quote from jem:
zzz I am not sure your response really tackles the issue I was pointing out.
It seem to me that we are allowed to generalize about negative aspects of the the groups in privileged positions but we are not allowed to make the same types of observations about other groups.
By the way, during the intros to the superbowl my 6 yr old asked why so many "dark" guys play pro football.
Is there a P.C answer for my son?
Is there a correct answer for my son?
Can we also observe other differences in race?
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
The problem is that the generalizations of the poor groups suggest that the bad behavior is racial in nature, not a result of environmental conditions.
My answer to your son would be that those players are in the Super Bowl because they are on the best teams in the NFL.
We can observer that there are difference in the color of skin, sure.
However, to conclude that the color of their skin makes them necessarily a better athlete is false.
Are you old enough to remember when a black quarterback was unthinkable, because they were considered too dumb?
Or a black coach in the Super Bowl unthinkable, because they lacked the intelligence?
You might also point out to your kids that many of those "dark" athletes were extremely motivated to work hard as a means to achieve in life and lift themselves and their families out of poverty, that excellence in athletics at that level is not just physical talent alone. I would communicate to the kids the need for a drive to achieve excellence as the most important factor it in.
That is such pure liberal delusion.
Black guys work harder than white guys to make the NFL.
they work harder than whites to win sprint events in the olympics.
elemetary school age black kids work harder at runing than the white kids.
elite black athletes are faster than elite white athletes in general. There are some exceptions.
this same observations seems to hold true at all levels of sport. if you have not played sports that involve quickness your liberal delusions are excused.
If you have not watched kids play soccer baseball and football or tennis your delusions are excused.
You never cease to surprise me jem...
Let's leave it at that, no need to escalate to where this will go if the present course you are setting forth is followed.
Please, take your "liberal" name calling where it might actually work...
Not in the mood for your anger and self righteous indignation and misrepresentation of what I have posted previously, maybe another time.
Let's leave it at that, no need to escalate to where this will go if the present course you are setting forth is followed.
Please, take your "liberal" name calling where it might actually work...
Not in the mood for your anger and self righteous indignation and misrepresentation of what I have posted previously, maybe another time.
Quote from jem:
That is such pure liberal delusion.
Black guys work harder than white guys to make the NFL.
they work harder than whites to win sprint events in the olympics.
elemetary school age black kids work harder at runing than the white kids.
elite black athletes are faster than elite white athletes in general. There are some exceptions.
this same observations seems to hold true at all levels of sport. if you have not played sports that involve quickness your liberal delusions are excused.
If you have not watched kids play soccer baseball and football or tennis your delusions are excused.
neophyte321
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Quote from james_bond_3rd:
That will never happen, because, as designed, 100 is defined to be "average IQ." Therefore, 50% of the population will always have IQ below 100...
........... if you eliminate the "stupid" people, and everything else remains equal, the average of 100 would increase.
........... if you then rework the IQ test to make 100 again the average, you would still have "stupid" people relative to the smartest, IE: BELOW AVERAGE
You kind of the missed the bigger point, Spect8or's fantasy is alreay in the works. GENETIC SCREENING HAS NOW OCCURED FOR DESIRED TRAITS, not just undesirable ones.
Intelligence is, no doubt, a DESIRED trait
defenseQuote from spect8or:
Why would you find it depressing? Not enough social problems for you to solve via endless ministrations? Interesting. Could it be that liberals don't even want to see the problems they endlessly moan about solved, because it would leave them with nothing to do?
i find a world in which only IQ counts very depressing,
because intelligence is just a fraction of what makes
life full, rich and enjoyable. i just mention art and love.
i doubt picasso or rodin had an astonishing IQ test.
defense continued
your quote on liberals being afraid of losing their mission,
is utterly cynical given the current situation of the
world. i guess most of those you call liberals would love
to prove you are wrong ... yet they lack opportunity.
offense
at times you sound reasonable, then suddenly you
appear very stereotyped. as your last sentence on
the liberals shows, you generalise so much, that it
is almost painful to contradict, because it is so easy.
it seems to me that you must be a very insecure
person, though i am sure this does not display at all
to the outside. the desire to make the world more
manageable by "testing" your fellow human beings
sounds so convinvcing at superficial view but so
naive on a second, deeper glance.
well, maybe they are not as good as most whites inQuote from Pa(b)st Prime:
ABlacks as a group have low emotional IQ's. They're manic-depressive. Ever been to a black funeral? You've never seen such intense, public greiving. The slightest slight, stepping on their shoes, bumping into them on a crowded "L" can cause an eruption of gunfire.
surpressing their emotions? and maybe that is why
not only their funerals but their services are a little more ...
emotional?