I don't understand this. What do values have to do with a card game?
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Bono's BS
- Thread starter Pa(b)st Prime
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I don't understand this. What do values have to do with a card game?
I have no problem with poker
but lets see if you could figure why I voiced my objection about the author writing about virtues while playing poker in casinos and racking up serious losses. .
from dictionary.com
vir·tu·ous
âadjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent; upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
[Origin: 1300â50; alter. (with i < L) of ME vertuou
but lets see if you could figure why I voiced my objection about the author writing about virtues while playing poker in casinos and racking up serious losses. .
from dictionary.com
vir·tu·ous
âadjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent; upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
[Origin: 1300â50; alter. (with i < L) of ME vertuou
Quote from jem:
I have no problem with poker
but lets see if you could figure why I voiced my objection about the author writing about virtues while playing poker in casinos and racking up serious losses. .
from dictionary.com
vir·tu·ous
âadjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent; upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
[Origin: 1300â50; alter. (with i < L) of ME vertuou
You've changed your story. Now he's suffering serious losses. Before he was just 'playing poker'. You correlated 'playing poker' with a lack of virtue. Now, when questioned, it has morphed into 'taking serious losses at poker', which even in itself is not indicative of lack of virtue if you are not losing money you can't afford to lose, i.e. money you should be using to feed your children.
There's nothing immoral about poker losses per se, jem. Sorry to tell you this. Only an arbitrary (read: faith based) view would require that poker losses indicate lack of virtue.
This doesn't help the credibility issue, jem. After what happened in the ID thread, I would have thought you would be a bit more careful...
Quote from traderNik:
You've changed your story. Now he's suffering serious losses. Before he was just 'playing poker'. You correlated 'playing poker' with a lack of virtue. Now, when questioned, it has morphed into 'taking serious losses at poker', which even in itself is not indicative of lack of virtue if you are not losing money you can't afford to lose, i.e. money you should be using to feed your children.
There's nothing immoral about poker losses per se, jem. Sorry to tell you this. Only an arbitrary (read: faith based) view would require that poker losses indicate lack of virtue.
This doesn't help the credibility issue, jem. After what happened in the ID thread, I would have thought you would be a bit more careful...
I have not changed my story you troll. And my statement has nothing to do with my faith you fool.
have you no shame, I crushed you repeatedly on I.D. thread and every other challlenger. I stated leading astrophysicists have said that there evidence of design and I proved it. I produced powerful quotes from Davies, Greensteet and Susskind.
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Typical ad hominem crap.
Is there something wrong with Bono's message, that would be an argument...
Or does he need to be Jesus Christ to talk about charity and the poor and problems around the world.
Many of these people have business managers, and they have no idea what is happening with their finances or where the money is being invested. They follow their financial advisers advice, that is what they are paying them for.
Perhaps he doesn't agree with where the tax money goes in Ireland or GB, and unlike those who just bitch about it but won't actually do anything...like move...he did something.
How do you know that he isn't taking the tax saving and donating it to what he thinks is a better cause to support his charity stuff?
Really, bottom line is this...I don't care what he does anyway, does his message make sense or not?
To you, his message would not be palatable even if he were Mother Theresa based on your politics.
I hear the same type of fallacious argument from Hannity when he attacks RFK Jr. for his environmentalism, because he sometimes travels in a private plane, as if that makes his environmental position wrong...
Simply fallacious reasoning, as Bono is not using himself as an appeal to authority, nor is he telling others that he is doing so and so with his money, so that others should be like him.
Typical right wing crap thinking when it comes to issues...attack the messenger when they don't like the message...
One of the things that always cracks me up is listening to the bumper music of Rush, Hannity and some other right wingers, when they play music between breaks that is either written by liberals or is about liberal causes.
Does this make their show's message therefore liberal simply because they play bumper music by a liberal?
It is business, you should know that...
Is this the same message you gave when the conservative preacher in colorado failed to live up to what he preached? You don't need to answer. We know.
Hmmm.
I don't think I minded that the preacher in Colorado was gay, or that his rap didn't match his act...of that what he was preaching was necessarily false, or became false once he was outed...
I thought it was funny that it happened, and even funnier was the way the flock reacted.
Did Bono step down from his job? Did he resign from any charities he is/was involved with?
Did some elders tell Bono that he needed spiritual counseling to help him with his "sickness."
Hilarious to me that people would compare a rock singer with a preacher, but maybe that is how people view rock stars who spend some time advancing causes they support...
I don't think I minded that the preacher in Colorado was gay, or that his rap didn't match his act...of that what he was preaching was necessarily false, or became false once he was outed...
I thought it was funny that it happened, and even funnier was the way the flock reacted.
Did Bono step down from his job? Did he resign from any charities he is/was involved with?
Did some elders tell Bono that he needed spiritual counseling to help him with his "sickness."
Hilarious to me that people would compare a rock singer with a preacher, but maybe that is how people view rock stars who spend some time advancing causes they support...
Quote from fhl:
Is this the same message you gave when the preacher in colorado failed to live up to what he preached? You don't need to answer. We know.
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Hmmm.
I don't think I minded that the preacher in Colorado was gay, or that his rap didn't match his act...of that what he was preaching was necessarily false, or became false once he was outed...
I thought it was funny that it happened, and even funnier was the way the flock reacted.
Did Bono step down from his job? Did he resign from any charities he is/was involved with?
Did some elders tell Bono that he needed spiritual counseling to help him with his "sickness."
Hilarious to me that people would compare a rock singer with a preacher, but maybe that is how people view rock stars who spend some time advancing causes they support...
You made one salient point about stepping down. When liberals break the law, are exposed as hypocrites, etc., they virtually NEVER step down. Not enough class.
Oh, so this is not really about issues related to Bono, this is about your conservative political agenda...
Figures...better get ready, Rush comes on in less than an hour to tell you what to think this week...
Figures...better get ready, Rush comes on in less than an hour to tell you what to think this week...
Quote from fhl:
You made one salient point about stepping down. When liberals break the law, are exposed as hypocrites, etc., they virtually NEVER step down. Not enough class.
Quote from jem:
I have not changed my story you troll. And my statement has nothing to do with my faith you fool.
have you no shame, I crushed you repeatedly on I.D. thread and every other challlenger. I stated leading astrophysicists have said that there evidence of design and I proved it. I produced powerful quotes from Davies, Greensteet and Susskind.
lol... hmmm, the record seems to show something different. It's so inconvenient to have the posts accessible through search, isn't it? You and Z must hate it.
In this case, the record shows that you first equated lack of virtue with playing poker, then when questioned, changed your story and said that losing a lot of money playing poker was contrary to virtue. The proof for that is about 5 posts above these. You clearly changed your story in this very thread, just above. Not to far to scroll for anyone who's interested. Search not even required!
I actually wasn't that involved in the ID thread, so when you say you 'crushed me', you must be dreaming of someone else. What actually happened was that you claimed to read a couple of books and were making constant reference to them, then someone found out that you hadn't read them at all and were just searching quotes from the 'net. Then kjkent spoke to Susskind, and confirmed that all the Susskind material you were claiming as support for your theory of ID/Creation was actually nothing of the kind. The author himself told us through kj that you were misinterpreting him (willfully, I believe).
So you're whole argument there, which was based on appeal to authority, crumbled.
Or are you denying that the last 10 pages of that thread have been a discussion of you and the fact that the authority you've been appealing to has disavowed your arguments?
Also, I believe there was some question about your claim that you're a lawyer.
So all in all... not a great few weeks for you. Like I said earlier, maybe a fresh start with a new user ID is in order.