bond_trad3r's illegal immigration solution

And we've lost our values because we've begun importing hordes of 3rd worlders, which have their own values. When you import swaths of foreigners with values and cultural standards foreign to your own, this will inevitably transform your national values, as has been the case with us.

The "nation of immigrants" was not a nation of 3rd world immigrants. It was a nation of immigrants from western nations, not 3rd world nations. And there's alot more to why we're the most powerful nation in the world than that. We're also NOT the most powerful nation in history, there have been other empires which were significantly more powerful, although we're certainly the most powerful today of course.

No, Brazil is still a 3rd world dump, with a shitty standard of living. Sure, they've made some strides, thanks to Western, 1st world technology, in the last 10 years, but they are still a 3rd world dump by any objective criteria, which we too will be if we continue to import the 3rd world.

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No, we're becoming a 3rd world nation because we've lost our values.
This nation was built on immigrants. As a result, we're the strongest most powerful nation in the history of the world. Our current problems are not because of immigration, only a xenophobe would suggest such a notion.



Last I checked, Brazil was making excellent strides in economic growth.
 
No, I'm using Norway to disprove your argument. Your assertion was that social programs which incentivize people not to work cause our problems. Yet, Norway, and many other nations have far more elaborate social aid programs than the USA, yet have rather high living standards.

Social programs for legal Americans? How do those affect illegal immigrants? It didn't make much sense for you to bring them up then, did it?


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Are you seriously using Norway to support you argument, laughable. That's a country of what... 5 million? Investing their oil exports into a sovereign wealth fund exceeding half a trillion was a smart move on part of the Norwegian. We Americans on the other hand have lost our ways. The solution to everything is to throw money at it.




I'm talking about social programs for legal Americans :D
 
Actually, hispanics are the only sector of the population which has INCREASED in Detroit according to the census. So good point.

However, it's not just illegals which contribute to it's condition, but 3rd world people in general. Detroit is mostly black, and has one of the largest Muslim populations in Amerca.

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I suppose all the illegals are responsible for Detroit as well.

You most definitely are an "artful dodger" as you never seem to mention the real crisis in this country.

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LOL!! Good one shit brains. Funny that I already had answered. LMAO!!!

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we're on the same wavelength. Literally was just about to post that image of Detroit and ask the same question.

the "artful dodger" will most likely not answer that one.
 
Who knows the true facts and how the shadow payola system really works. All I know is we spend an ass load of money in this losing battle with no return.

The politicians write waivers so Big agra can bring in seasonal foreign workers paid below minimum wage knowing full well they are going to stay here illegally.


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LOL!!! Using "americanprogress" as an objective source on immigration huh? LMAO!!
 
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LOL!! Good one shit brains. Funny that I already had answered. LMAO!!!

Dude, slow down. I know that you are "breathlessly" awaiting our replies but at least give me two minutes to get an update on the thread.
 
Agreed, those jobs should go to Americans. All these bleeding heart leftists who are supposedly so concerned with the american lower class, wont take the obvious step to help them the most. Boot the illegals, give them 30 million more jobs, which would force the employers to raise wages high enough to attract the workers. Big Agra can suck a cock. They need to be forced to hire Americans, or otherwise go farm in the nations which they want to hire in.

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Who knows the true facts and how the shadow payola system really works. All I know is we spend an ass load of money in this losing battle with no return.

The politicians write waivers so Big agra can bring in seasonal foreign workers paid below minimum wage knowing full well they are going to stay here illegally.
 
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