Bond rally nearing an end?

Quote from drsteph:

Your argument is persuasive... partly because you've been just so spot on on this run up in the 30 yr yield!

In the back of my mind, I suspect that we are moving into a different functioning era due to BSB's inflation targeting. I think he is willing to induce a brief slowdown to see if he is able to 'get it right'.

I would not be surprised if we see above 50bp on the short end, but it depends on the long bond yield. If the long bond yield gets too high, perhaps BSB will buy the long end and sell more of the short? He has eluded to that in the past... but we are way off from that point.

I'm hanging on to my leveraged floaters for now, particularly since the curve isn't inverted any more... plan to dump them within 6-9 months, but that depends on when we stop hiking.

It's a bull market in yields Doc.
I've been looking for the FED to ease at some point, to help stocks. But they just keep on notching up the crank.
And, I do not read anything in their words that says otherwise.

I've been following TLT (lehman's long term), listed on the NYSE.
It has dropped stride for stride with the 30yr.
The 30yr is down 8 points: TLT is down 8 points (92 - 84)
It was making new lows for the day after the bond market closed.
Seems they are selling anything that even looks like a Bond :)
 
Quote from illiquid:

Wasn't Bernanke's idea some speech ago that if long-term rates remained low, the fed would need to raise more to counter that, and I assume vice-versa?
Excellent remark but in his March 20th speech Bernanke said
<i>To the extent that the decline in forward rates can be traced to a decline in the term premium, perhaps for one or more of the reasons I have just suggested, the effect is financially stimulative and argues for greater monetary policy restraint, all else being equal.</i>
<b>and</b>
<i>However, if the behavior of long-term yields reflects current or prospective economic conditions, the implications for policy may be quite different--indeed, quite the opposite. The simplest case in point is when low or falling long-term yields reflect investor expectations of future economic weakness.</i>

Which means that
a. If low long-term interest rates reflect a glut of savings that works against monetary tightness, then monetary policy would have to be tighter;
<i>but</i>
b. If low long-term interest rates reflect anticipation of an economic slowdown, then monetary policy would have to be more accomodative.
 
Remarks by Governor Mark W. Olson
Update on the U.S. economy
At the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, Little Rock, Arkansas
April 13, 2006

Just read Kohn's speech below :)


Quote from gharghur2:

Remarks by Governor Donald L. Kohn
Economic outlook

"Several factors have propelled reasonably strong economic growth. A critical element has been supportive financial conditions. Despite the tightening of monetary policy that began in mid-2004, short-term interest rates were at fairly low levels until recently, and the effects of those low rates have continued to spur household and business spending. In addition, although longer-term yields have moved up notably in recent weeks, they too have been low by historical standards.

Our economy has been able to register this good performance despite rising energy prices. This audience knows well that since late 2003 the price of West Texas intermediate crude oil, for delivery at Cushing, has soared from about $30 per barrel to nearly $70 recently. Nonetheless, the rise in energy prices has apparently had only a limited negative effect on the national economy. Energy costs are not nearly as important today as they once were...Of course, reactions to higher energy prices are hard to predict, but the measured response of activity over the past couple of years suggests that the most recent price increases will have, at most, only a small effect on economic growth during this year.

Despite the relatively moderate increases in prices and costs that we have observed lately, the capacity utilization rate and the unemployment rate have recently reached zones that on occasion in the past have been associated with the beginnings of upward pressure on inflation...In the current circumstances, as the Federal Open Market Committee has said, the economic climate appears to be one in which further increases in resource utilization, in combination with the elevated prices of energy and other commodities, have the potential to add to inflation pressures.

Sales of both new and existing homes are down substantially from their levels last summer, and information on mortgage applications and pending home sales point to further softening in the next few months. With demand slowing, house prices also seem likely to decelerate. Indeed, we are beginning to see hints of moderation in some of the data on housing prices.

At this time, even with housing markets cooling, the fundamentals remain favorable for solid gains over the coming months and quarters in both consumer spending and business investment. In part, that assessment reflects the sizable increases in employment that we have been seeing over the past year or so.

Meanwhile, in the business sector, order books for nondefense capital goods are full, sales prospects appear good, profits have been strong, balance sheets are in healthy shape, and companies are flush with cash. As the growth of consumption eases back a little, so too should the increase in capital spending as firms come to anticipate slower growth in sales. But judging from rising global commodity prices and equity valuations abroad, foreign demand looks to be increasing, and rising exports should offset some of the scaling back of domestic sales prospects. In addition, technological advances will continue to boost demand for capital equipment by reducing its costs and increasing its usefulness in improving efficiency...If the economy does not moderate somewhat, pressures on resources will increase, further raising the odds of higher inflation.

My job as a policymaker is to work with my colleagues to identify the path of short-term interest rates that has the best chance of realizing that favorable central-tendency forecast of solid growth and continued low inflation. I do not know how much policy firming will be needed to accomplish this objective...My forecast is that the economy is in transition to a sustainable pace of growth, in which case policy likely will be in transition as well. At this juncture, given the apparent strength in demand and the narrowing margin of unused resources, I am focused on making sure that inflation and inflation expectations remain well anchored. A tendency for inflation to move higher would put economic stability and the long-term performance of the economy at risk. Accordingly, for me, the critical indicators in the time ahead will be the ones that signal whether growth is indeed likely to proceed at a sustainable pace and whether inflation remains on a favorable track. This is a judgment my colleagues and I will need to make meeting by meeting as the incoming information--both the data and, critically, the timely feel for developments that we get from the Reserve Banks' contacts in the community--help us assess the paths for the economy and price pressures."
 
Quote from gharghur2:

Picture worth a thousand words?

$TYX
Quote from steveosborne 04-08-06 02:46 PM:

I see bonds somewhat going sideways but at the same time loosing another point by early May. The bulls won't get in before the second week of May because...
We might have reached a point where bears don't want to sell anymore but bulls don't want to jump in yet.
 
I also think that the stock market will continue to surprise us with its strength. At the source of what has been bringing bonds down is solid growth and yet the Nasdaq had just caught up with the S&P before stocks corrected, so stocks still have a lot of time left to celebrate.
 
I would watch out if you are cautiously bullish in the Notes and especially the Bond. Over the past two weeks there have been so many structural bearish positions put on in the options it is out of control. These are very long-term positions being put on, such as out in September options. The craziest positions are in the 30yr options. John Hughes, an old CRT trader now backed by Stafford Insurance, is long 30,000 (as a local) June 106 puts, and attempting to roll them into the September 104 puts (so far has rolled about 15,000, we'll see at what price pit locals let him out of the rest). There is also a Sep 103-104-105 Put fly on in the 30yr of about 15,000 contracts. Don't forget PIMCO selling the Sep 111 calls about 15,000 times so far. And then the 10yr, a 20,000 lot June 102-103-104-105 Put condor. Finally, the mortgage guys (most likely Wells Fargo), trading in and out of the June 105 puts in the 10yr and then in the 30yr the June 103-105 put spread 1x2 and the July 101-104 put spread 1x2, both 10,000 lot plus positions.
 
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