Boeing's 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers

[Bernard111]

There is a criminal investigation.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airplane-boeing-investigatio/u-s-prosecutors-subpoena-records-on-boeing-787-production-seattle-times-idUSKCN1TT360?feedType=RSS&feedName=businessNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+reuters/businessNews+(Business+News)

The news has been deleted?

 

[traderslair]

Ya, okay. Thats idiotic. Airbus has a MUCH higher crash per flight rate than Boeing....but you do you, and stay at home.

This is absolutely false.

Airbus always had a slightly better safety record than Boeing.

 

[ironchef]

Well you just insulted a whole profession without being a software guy yourself.
Just like the people who praise the dev for a piece of sw that works fine but blame QA when shit happens.

You have no idea what I did in my prior life.

But it is true folks like to blame QA. Comes with the territory.

 

[IAS_LLC]

This is absolutely false.

Airbus always had a slightly better safety record than Boeing.

Found on quora...so take it for what its worth:

Boeing: 1.84 million flights per crash
Airbus: 0.81 million flights per crash


They are both around 0.06 FLE crashes, however. (airsafety.com).

 

[ironchef]

Found on quora...so take it for what its worth:

Boeing: 1.84 million flights per crash
Airbus: 0.81 million flights per crash


They are both around 0.06 FLE crashes, however. (airsafety.com).

https://www.fearofflying.com/resources/safest-airliners-and-airline-safety.shtml

 

[IAS_LLC]

Note that the airbus at the top of the list only has ~300 planes in service. The 737 has ~3000.

 

[ironchef]

Old Boeing: before 2005, 747, 757, 767, 777, 737 NG. CEOs were engineers.

New Boeing: After 2005, 787, 737 MAX. ran by a Harvard MBA from GE, with no aerospace technical background.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/richar...-like-it-was-any-other-industry/#43afd9e6579c

 

[Peter8519]

Statistics.... with 2 crashes within a few months, the rest of the historical data is of no use. Now, 737 Max may fly again next year. Engineers probably going through the code line by line.

 

[traderslair]

Note that the airbus at the top of the list only has ~300 planes in service. The 737 has ~3000.

Yeah, I do agree that Boeing is also flying much longer than Airbus and in the old days when Airbus wasn't born yet planes were not that safe.

 

[dheagerty]

The Engineering Profession is at fault. If all engineering disciplines united, unionized and started forcing US certified engineers to practice the art of engineering, this would be unlawful. Doctors, Lawyers, Architects and other professions have successfully kept cheap labor from entering the nation or providing services at all. Sorry, I forgot about the drug industry and how they prevent drugs from entering the country.