But it doesn’t seem like you want to live in a country. Or at least any country with a social compact. A pirate island may best suit you.
Blame the VAXers, they have put us all at risk!
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But it doesn’t seem like you want to live in a country. Or at least any country with a social compact. A pirate island may best suit you.
I'm too old to fall for that shit.
I accept the risk with all the other unvaccinated people.
You can't scare me with this shit. I was alive at a time when a kid caught the measles, all the parents would bring their kids over to play with that kid so they could all catch it together and get it over with. It absolutely IS a mild illness.
Mark my words, 10 to 20 years from now, they're going to talk about how deadly chickenpox was once enough people who lived pre-vaccine are dead and can't refute them.
Seeing that the mortality rate of measles is 1.2% - mainly among the young. I have never heard of "when a kid caught the measles, all the parents would bring their kids over to play with that kid so they could all catch it together and get it over with." In fact if a parent did this in the U.S. the police will haul the parent away to jail under oversight from a public health department. Measles is not a mild illness.
Chicken-pox is an infection where "parents would bring their kids over to play so they would catch it" Chicken pox has a very low death rate (assuming aspirin was not taken) and is mild. It definitely very different than measles (which is quite deadly to the young).
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yeah he confused Measles and Chicken Pox...I guess he really is old
It isn't. Go find me a study pre-1950s that can confirm that.
The U.S. had an average of 5300 measles-related deaths during 1912–1916 (26 deaths/ 1000 reported cases).
from the National Center for Health Statistics Vital Statistics System, Multiple Cause-of-Death Files 1912–1998, published in 1999.
The reported measles mortality rate prior the 1950s improved treatment and early vaccine trials was 2.6% (26 /1000).
Yes, it is even higher than 1.2% - that was the 1950s mortality percentage with improved treatment. Nealy all the deaths were children under 15.
The history of measles: A scourge for centuries
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-na-measles-timeline-20150205-story.html
Measles Elimination in the United States
https://watermark.silverchair.com/1...u2SloO3ld2H_5gMTzxo_QC-Et8iZniRexp6LcRugynDew
from the National Center for Health Statistics Vital Statistics System, Multiple Cause-of-Death Files 1912–1998, published in 1999.
The reported measles mortality rate prior the 1950s improved treatment and early vaccine trials was 2.6% (26 /1000).
Yes, it is even higher than 1.2% - that was the 1950s mortality percentage with improved treatment. Nealy all the deaths were children under 15.
The history of measles: A scourge for centuries
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-na-measles-timeline-20150205-story.html
Measles Elimination in the United States
https://watermark.silverchair.com/1...u2SloO3ld2H_5gMTzxo_QC-Et8iZniRexp6LcRugynDew
Question, is the only thing that matters whether you treat a virus is mortality rate?
If a virus/disease simply causes you to be crippled for the rest of your life, should we just neglect if only 1% die from it?
If a virus/disease simply causes you to be crippled for the rest of your life, should we just neglect if only 1% die from it?
For example... Polio
Mother Nature is undefeated pal. You are one of the people who think you will live forever. There are no happy endings, slaw.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1383764/
The Cutter Incident: How America's First Polio Vaccine Led to a Growing Vaccine Crisis
from the "hurrier i go the behinder i get" dept.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutter_Laboratories
In what became known as the Cutter incident, some lots of the Cutter vaccine—despite passing required safety tests—contained live polio virus in what was supposed to be an inactivated-virus vaccine. Cutter withdrew its vaccine from the market on April 27 after vaccine-associated cases were reported.
The mistake produced 120,000 doses of polio vaccine that contained live polio virus. Of children who received the vaccine, 40,000 developed abortive poliomyelitis (a form of the disease that does not involve the central nervous system), 56 developed paralytic poliomyelitis—and of these, five children died from polio.[2] The exposures led to an epidemic of polio in the families and communities of the affected children, resulting in a further 113 people paralyzed and 5 deaths.[3] The director of the microbiology institute lost his job, as did the equivalent of the assistant secretary for health. Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare Oveta Culp Hobby stepped down. Dr Sebrell, the director of the NIH, resigned.[4]
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The Cutter Incident: How America's First Polio Vaccine Led to a Growing Vaccine Crisis
from the "hurrier i go the behinder i get" dept.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutter_Laboratories
In what became known as the Cutter incident, some lots of the Cutter vaccine—despite passing required safety tests—contained live polio virus in what was supposed to be an inactivated-virus vaccine. Cutter withdrew its vaccine from the market on April 27 after vaccine-associated cases were reported.
The mistake produced 120,000 doses of polio vaccine that contained live polio virus. Of children who received the vaccine, 40,000 developed abortive poliomyelitis (a form of the disease that does not involve the central nervous system), 56 developed paralytic poliomyelitis—and of these, five children died from polio.[2] The exposures led to an epidemic of polio in the families and communities of the affected children, resulting in a further 113 people paralyzed and 5 deaths.[3] The director of the microbiology institute lost his job, as did the equivalent of the assistant secretary for health. Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare Oveta Culp Hobby stepped down. Dr Sebrell, the director of the NIH, resigned.[4]
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