Blackjack - I'm hooked!

Quote from sKaLpZ:

see, it's real simple... the dealer is a tough player - you got to be tougher and... a major key is figuring out what the main strength is of the dealer then wiping out that main power base.

the rest falls in order. :D
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it is as simple as disconnecting the electric cord.....:D
 
Played a lot of blackjack in the 80's. I don't keep current anymore, but I think its harder than ever to beat 21. I would say you have no chance using a trading plan for forex. It would be like trading using a blackjack plan. Unless you could spot a sloppy dealer and see the down card,(and even then you still need skill), there is no way to beat the casino unless you count, and count very well. You also need a complete plan that includes how to size up the table rules, shuffle track, money mgmt. an act so you can play, details like when to stand on a hard 16 and when to split 10's. Many games are not even beatable, but good players can figure out where to play. When I played at my best, I could only win about 4% of risk. I know everyones different, but it took me about 3 years to just get there.

I have checked a few online casinos and although I haven tracked it, I noticed a pretty big difference in win rate when playing for fun, as opposed to real money.
 
Your counting cards and don't even know it....


ya just got to realize how dangerous the dealer is.

that he/she can run in minor "streaks" (it would appear) or trends where s/he can get 2,3,4 wins at 20s and 21s right in a row.
 
Quote from gotmessner:

Skalpz,

You've had 2-3 counters tell you that your system won't work. One dealer has told you the same. A bunch of people who know a bit about blackjack have told you you're wasting your time.

And you think "hey i'm a trader, so it doesn't matter what they say".

Weren't you the guy who was challenging someone to a trading contest using your demo account?

I think it's back to school for you definantly, i'm not an advocate of someone needing supreme higher education to be succesful - but in gambling as in trading, you must atleast have a basic knowledge of maths, probability (etc) and be able to know when to take advice from people who know much more than you.

Enrol in high school, take some classes. After that, read some books on trading and re-read this thread. Maybe then you'll realise that everyone says "IF YOU WANT TO BEAT BLACKJACK - LEARN TO COUNT".

Stop saying "well i'm a trader" - You're just someone who plays on demo accounts.
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yeah?

well, I'm a trader, so it doesn't matter what they say.

:cool:
 
Quote from target0:

Played a lot of blackjack in the 80's. I don't keep current anymore, but I think its harder than ever to beat 21. I would say you have no chance using a trading plan for forex. It would be like trading using a blackjack plan. Unless you could spot a sloppy dealer and see the down card,(and even then you still need skill), there is no way to beat the casino unless you count, and count very well. You also need a complete plan that includes how to size up the table rules, shuffle track, money mgmt. an act so you can play, details like when to stand on a hard 16 and when to split 10's. Many games are not even beatable, but good players can figure out where to play. When I played at my best, I could only win about 4% of risk. I know everyones different, but it took me about 3 years to just get there.

I have checked a few online casinos and although I haven tracked it, I noticed a pretty big difference in win rate when playing for fun, as opposed to real money.
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well, it's been about a week since I started and already I feel I am advancing...

I give the dealer a much harder time of taking my money... and I push a LOT more than I did when I first started.

yeah, I could see myself getting to the point where I win more often than the dealer AND retain my winnings as well... it may take some time, but... I have what it takes.

once I get my $1000 BJ acct to $100,000 I will go live.
 
Quote from kjkent1:

"...you are so mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence." -- David Warner, Time Bandits (1981)
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Lol . . . at least he's consistent you know?

"I push a LOT more than I did when I first started."

Precious! You can't make this stuff up if you tried.
 
Quote from illiquid:

Lol . . . at least he's consistent you know?

"I push a LOT more than I did when I first started."

Precious! You can't make this stuff up if you tried.
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Yeah, he's a regular Don Quixote.
 
Quote from easyrider:

Being the cynic that I am I would suspect that demo gambling accounts have the odds tipped in favor of the player.
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While this is clearly the case with some online casinos, this appears not to be the case at those that are reputable. That said, I have not run any statistical analysis on this, but I believe some others over at Casinomeister have.

Yahoo is using their own engine and only offers "play" money, so they very well could make the game more advantageous to you for entertainment purposes.

In any case, I would gladly sign up at any reputable online casino that was known to have fair games. Most of those use licensed software suites such as Microgaming, Wagerlogic, Playtech, etc.

The reason for this is that the player is given a huge advantage through online gaming due to internet casinos generous promotions. I'll give you one basic example. You may know of the online poker site, PartyPoker. They are affiliated with IGlobalMedia, who is therein tied to the Starluck Casino. If you have ever played at PartyPoker, sometimes when you exit the site, you are offered a link to Starluck. So new players to Starluck are offered a great deal. Make a deposit of $100 and get $100 in "bonus" money. You can cash out this "bonus" money after you comply with the casino's terms, which, in this case, you'd need to wager $1600. You might be thinking that sounds like a lot. But wait, why not just play the lowest house advantage version of blackjack with $1 bets. Blackjack has one of the smallest house advantages of all casino games and the variance is much lower than other games such as full pay Jacks or Better Video Poker, etc. So, let's assume that the version of blackjack you play has a 0.5% house advantage. Given optimal play, over $1600 of wagering, you are expected to lose $8.

This means you would be left with $92 in expected value. You can run the numbers yourself if you like, but this is a clear edge. You go into the casino with a guaranteed and known positive expectation.

THIS is how you beat the world of online gambling, not some trader's "system" to beat the dealer.
 
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